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Can't believe all the fuss over a stupid prank. Kudos to NM for taking responsibility, but really, no one was killed. A few dumb footballers did something a bit silly. End of story. Or it should be. I'd be dirty if I was a player there who didn't see the video, but was made to appear in public "apologising". You don't shoot the whole team for the misdeeds of a few. And Adam Simpson didn't really help by saying "I'm the oldest player, and I didn't know it would offend". Stupid. Just stupid.
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It's a really hard call; lot's of important issues about women and violence at least subliminally that are indefensible.
More important to me is the fact that North have a culture of singling out the weeks/ months/years worst performer and publicly awarding a booby prize; a process of humiliation.
Nothing I have ever read about motivation and there was a metastudy conducted only a couple of years ago, has ever suggested that this produces positive results.
I suspect that someone needs to have a word in the collective NM ear and suggest that if you consciously include humiliation in your culture it will be taken out ultimately, on others less powerful. It doesn't take a genius to realise that in the case of hairy chested males this will be women.[I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I] -
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You're wrong.
Do you think its great for the image of the game and its treatment of women.
I don't know how they could have found ity funny. Call themselves Senior players? Its a 13 yo prank.Comment
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Didn't watch. What is this about?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Comment
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Firstly its there is more to it than a prank about a chicken. There are sex acts depicted.
Why is a comparison between whats worse? Of course there are worse things that could have happen.
Not sure how its out of proportion? They players got a slap on the hand. As expected in a football town like Melbourne its news worthy. Do you think there are no lessons to be learnt here?
I bet North, their major sponsor and the AFL are delighted.Comment
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Firstly it was reported that it was a youngster who made the video and put it on myspace, then Simpson & Pratt came forward as if they were responsible, utter crap!Comment
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Two senior North Melbourne AFL players have admitted to being part of a group of eight players who made an offensive video that was uploaded onto the internet.
Midfielder Adam Simpson and ruckman Daniel Pratt appeared on The Footy Show on Channel Nine last night to confess to being part of the group that made the video, which has been described as tasteless and offensive to women.
It shows a rubber chicken with a condom over its head simulating sex with a chicken carcass.
The dead chicken is later hurled against a wall and run over by a club vehicle. A sponsor's logo is visible at one stage of the video, which has a rap song called 'Move, Bitch' as its soundtrack.
Simpson, a former club captain, says he feels ashamed about making the video.
"We're really embarrassed about it, I'm married, I've got three children, my wife is devastated," he said.
"It's not about how we're feeling I suppose, but we understand we've done the wrong thing."
Kangaroos players have donated $10,000 to a domestic violence charity.Comment
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That was the most cringeworthy piece of television since Hugh Grant was interviewed on the Jay Leno showComment
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I think it was a puerile act more befitting that of a group of 13 year olds. That senior leadership players were involved makes it all the more deplorable, as you would expect them to have been more responsible. The fact that it seems they in some ways have tried to defend it by saying "it was only ever for viewing internally" misses the point by a fair margin.
The fact that there were overtones of sex mixed with alcohol and violence against women is the real issue here. Which goes hand in hand with the negative perceptions in the wider community of footballers in general (not just AFL footballers) and their attitude towards women.
I would be interested in hearing the thoughts of some our female members here on woof on this topic.Comment
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I don't beleive for a second that they were involved. I just think "They're taking one for the team"
As for the video. I'm not offended by it. I've seen a lot worse on YouTube. It was a stupid thing to do and at any age an AFL registered player should have known better.Comment
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I'm almost certain they did not do it, they are leaders and put their hand up to "take one for the team".
Being leaders they are best equipped to handle the scrutiny. All this crap that they are no certainty to play this weekend is just that!Comment
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IF both Simmo & Pratt took one for the team, especially Simmo, he was the one answering most questions, you have to say it was extremely couragous for those 2 players to front up, however, IF they were involved, then they are just dimbats, especlally Adam, i just could not imagine him having any part of this, he seems from the outside as someone with such high morals as anyone going around.
It's as though it was Chris Grant or Dale Morris, you just couldn't imagine they would have anything to do with something like this.Comment
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Okay Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - you have encouraged me to post as a female member - I read the initial post last night after watching Simpson & Pratt on the Footy Show, and was flabbergasted that someone thought it was just a prank and a beat up. I totally agree with your comments - even the way Simpson & Pratt were apologising seemed to me that they had totally missed the point - "only intended for internal viewing"! The very fact that this was made at all is the point - I also baulked at something Brayshaw said about the club - I mean this is the club where players have admitted having affairs with other players wives, arguments & punch-ups, etc. It would appear that the culture at North Melbourne has a way to go given their track record. I would be totally mortified if our team was ever involved it anything of this nature. It is totally school shelter shed stuff but possibly a bit more violent, and grown, mature men should know better. It showed a complete lack of respect of women in general. Even the sniggering in the audience left me cold - is it just that Australian culture is to try and make a joke of something, rather than really face the issues? I as a female would be interested in hearing any comments from our male members who have young sons and think about whether you would be happy for them to be involved in something like this?
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