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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15548

    #646
    Re: The Bald Eagle

    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
    I agree again Mantis. I just think that next week will probably need up suiting him and we need all we can get at the moment.
    Frankly I am just sick of Eagleton saving his arse against inferior opposition and then playing like shit when we need him. It is time to play someone else in his role.

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    • Rocco Jones
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jun 2008
      • 6988

      #647
      Re: The Bald Eagle

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Frankly I am just sick of Eagleton saving his arse against inferior opposition and then playing like shit when we need him. It is time to play someone else in his role.
      I think we kind of 'need' him next week. While the Dees aren't a top 4 type of side and we should beat them, they are still a challenge. A few things off and we might struggle to win. At the moment I don't think we can really lake the 'bigger picture' calls, we simply have to win. Once we (hopefully) regain a few runners I will definitely be on your bandwagon. I will probably be on it either way for the game against the Swans.

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      • Missing-Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 3102

        #648
        Re: The Bald Eagle

        I tend to agree with Mantis.
        Moles or Boyd would certainly bring more to the table than Eagleton

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #649
          Re: The Bald Eagle

          Gee wiz some people look at things with red white and blue goggles on. Hand on hearts fellow Dog fans he never plays well when we ultimately need him! That is a fact nobody can deny,folks you can waffle on about Scapegoats until the cows come home but it's time to bring in Easton Wood

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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6988

            #650
            Re: The Bald Eagle

            Originally posted by Remi Moses
            Gee wiz some people look at things with red white and blue goggles on. Hand on hearts fellow Dog fans he never plays well when we ultimately need him! That is a fact nobody can deny,folks you can waffle on about Scapegoats until the cows come home but it's time to bring in Easton Wood
            Not sure who that is directed to.

            I have said Eagle is rubbish against quality sides but should play next week because our poor running depth is poor. I think that is pretty unbiased.

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            • KT31
              WOOF Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 5455

              #651
              Re: The Bald Eagle

              Originally posted by Remi Moses
              Gee wiz some people look at things with red white and blue goggles on. Hand on hearts fellow Dog fans he never plays well when we ultimately need him! That is a fact nobody can deny,folks you can waffle on about Scapegoats until the cows come home but it's time to bring in Easton Wood
              If we had fed the ball to Eagle and set up a structure where he could have a shot from 50 , IMO the post would be different tonight.
              Its alright picking players for certain games but you must play to their strengths and we didn't do that tonight.
              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15548

                #652
                Re: The Bald Eagle

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                I think we kind of 'need' him next week. While the Dees aren't a top 4 type of side and we should beat them, they are still a challenge. A few things off and we might struggle to win. At the moment I don't think we can really lake the 'bigger picture' calls, we simply have to win. Once we (hopefully) regain a few runners I will definitely be on your bandwagon. I will probably be on it either way for the game against the Swans.
                Could Hill play this running role?

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                • KT31
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 5455

                  #653
                  Re: The Bald Eagle

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Could Hill play this running role?
                  Good chance to play one of the younger brigade against a lower side.
                  It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6988

                    #654
                    Re: The Bald Eagle

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Could Hill play this running role?
                    He could if he worked at the level you'd expect from an AFL player. If/when he comes back, I think it should primary be in said role.

                    I am not a fan of Eagle and have wanted him dropped many times before but I think he at least offers a tank and willingness to run out an AFL way (albeit going one way at times). Obviously his work in close/under pressure is really exposed against quality sides.

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                    • chef
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 14750

                      #655
                      Re: The Bald Eagle

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      Frankly I am just sick of Eagleton saving his arse against inferior opposition and then playing like shit when we need him. It is time to play someone else in his role.
                      Could Wood play his role?
                      The curse is dead.

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                      • Desipura
                        WOOF Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4344

                        #656
                        Re: The Bald Eagle

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        It's been far too long since a good ole Eagle kicking so here goes:

                        This was the exact type of game that we needed him to prosper in, but he couldn't. We needed him to 'run the lines', find space and use his left foot to move the ball quickly to break thru the zone, but he was no where to be seen. Fitness should not be an issue after having a few games behind him, but it was like he couldn't keep up tonight.

                        I may be seen as an Eagleton 'basher', but he has made a living of beating up the competitions lightweights, but is a perennial poor performer against the quality teams. Nothing changed tonight and it is time to look elsewhere.

                        We all live in hope (I don't) that one of Eagleton's booming left footers will win us such a game, but how long will we have to wait?

                        Out: Eagleton

                        In: Boyd
                        Can we stop the Eagle bashing? You dont like when other players get bagged and you get all defensive, why should Eagle be an exception? Hypocritical if you ask me.

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15484

                          #657
                          Re: The Bald Eagle

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Could Hill play this running role?
                          I asked the same question last year, as im sure many have.

                          Looks like he might not be able to, even though he has been given all the right genes for it in regards to running motor.

                          Maybe he doesn't have the desire to run hard for the full game?
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #658
                            Re: The Bald Eagle

                            Originally posted by bobmurphy
                            I asked the same question last year, as im sure many have.

                            Looks like he might not be able to, even though he has been given all the right genes for it in regards to running motor.

                            Maybe he doesn't have the desire to run hard for the full game?
                            You know, this would be relevant if Eagle actually still ran for 4 whole quarters and kicked long raking goals more than twice a year.

                            Eagle has been a great servant for the club, but it often seems that people are often talking from memory when talking about his traits rather than on present evidence. There were two, maybe three games last year where he really ran through or kicked over the zone (notably the Brisbane game). In tight games (like yesterday's) he just doesn't have the close-skills to use his traits effectively. Well done for prolonging his career as long as he has, but in this day and age of spacelessness we need guys who can play quick in no space and not be a liability in possession. It would be different if he were kicking two goals a game, but he rarely does anymore.

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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7579

                              #659
                              Re: The Bald Eagle

                              Originally posted by Desipura
                              Can we stop the Eagle bashing? You dont like when other players get bagged and you get all defensive, why should Eagle be an exception? Hypocritical if you ask me.
                              Did you read Mantis' post in its entirety?

                              He gave a detailed reason as to why he thought Eagleton should be dropped, exactly what we expect of this forum, not just a throw away line lacking substance.
                              [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15484

                                #660
                                Re: The Bald Eagle

                                Originally posted by Lantern
                                You know, this would be relevant if Eagle actually still ran for 4 whole quarters and kicked long raking goals more than twice a year.

                                Eagle has been a great servant for the club, but it often seems that people are often talking from memory when talking about his traits rather than on present evidence. There were two, maybe three games last year where he really ran through or kicked over the zone (notably the Brisbane game). In tight games (like yesterday's) he just doesn't have the close-skills to use his traits effectively. Well done for prolonging his career as long as he has, but in this day and age of spacelessness we need guys who can play quick in no space and not be a liability in possession. It would be different if he were kicking two goals a game, but he rarely does anymore.
                                If you asked eade why eagle is still in the team I'm sure the answer would be along the lines of gut running, long kicking and goal kicking. I didn't say either way if eagle is in the best 22, simply saying the coaches see hill as a half forward and eagle as an outside runner.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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