IF - Pavlich was available?

[boydogs]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

There are several reasons why this might happen:

- Fremantle will be looking to rebuild at the time of the 'compromised' drafts, and so may trade some good older players for the draft picks or young guns of other clubs. These will be of a higher value than in other years as trade bait

- Pavlich may want to join a side with a chance of winning the premiership before he retires, which includes us and does not include GC17. When players come out with specific wishes to move e.g. Judd, Ray and Aker, their clubs can sometimes get less than they otherwise might

- We have several WA players on our list - Hargrave, Hill and Stack - two of those are not yet 21 years old

- Johnson and Aker may retire at the end of this year. Grant and Cordy are only 19 and 18 so there will be a big hole to fill whilst the youngsters mature. We will want a ready made forward in the years Pavlich will still be playing to tide us over

It could be a matter of whether we want to continue drafting and developing young talent, securing long-term top half of the ladder success or take a slight detour that could put us over the top for a premiership - this could be the one trade to make the difference

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

I can't see it happening, and if by some fluke it did, Adelaide will be in a better position as they are expected to finish lower down the ladder, higher draft picks and of course the home side.

[boydogs]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

The theory behind Pavlich wanting to go is I believe more to do with chasing success - a shot at a premiership - than wanting to return to his home state for the last few years of his footballing career. Sides in this category are not going to be in the bottom 4 receiving high draft picks, and we are one that has a lot of good young talent including 2 WA boys that we could offer up in place

We could still trade for a high pick, but the bottom sides can't trade for a premiership chance

[LostDoggy]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

I highly doubt it.

Williams is important to our structure but he's not an "A" grade player. He's more similar to Morris than Lake, in that he basically plays a lockdown role without giving too much rebounding offense ala Lake. I'd suggest Fremantle would be after a legit gun capable of really changing/influencing games - Eg. Cooney, Griffen and Higgins.

Williams is going to be a good, strong player - but Freo wouldn't think twice. They'd say no.

The kid is a top 10 draft pick, still only 22, and a key position player. He also has 'cred' outside the Dogs as a potential gun backman with some 'anti-Buddy' hype about him in the press. Freo aren't exactly awash with key position types other than Pav, especially at the back. TW would be someone they could build a backline around, is young enough to be part of their next generation, and replaces a key position player in Pav, and as we know all too well, key backmen don't grow on trees.

I suggest they would look harder at him than any of Cross, Boyd, Hill, Stack et al. Other than Cooney, Griff and Higgins, he is the most marketable (trade-wise) of the Dogs.

Freo would be crazy not to look at TW + 2 early draft picks (in the last uncompromised draft) for an aging KPF that won't be around for their next real flag tilt.

[soupman]

Re: IF - Pavlich was available?

I hate trying to come up with trades, as the value is always heavily influenced by bias and how attached you are to the players.

In regards to players they may look at, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ward. Fremantle would surely be interested in a 20 year old who's already shown they are good enough for AFL football, are tough, and have good disposal, plus are a potential leader. Obviously he wouldn't be anywhere near enough to get the deal done, but he could be a big component of it. If you put say him, Everitt and a first rounder together you may be getting there.

As for Stack, regard him as a third round draft pick. Potential do be good, but only a 40-60 chance of making AFL, and unlikely to have much of an influence ona trade of this calibre unless he is used as a sweetener. He is nowhere near the value of a Hill, Everitt or even a Tiller or Reid.