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  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    #46
    Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

    Originally posted by Alan Shorty
    I hope Eade doesn't pay heed to such foolishness. You don't drop a player of his quality on a few bad games. He'll turn the corner. He wasn't the worst one out there tonight.
    Agreed, Gilbs is a talent.
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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #47
      Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

      Originally posted by Rocket Science
      I understand the foot-speed issue, which is clearly compounded when Cooney and Griffen aren't at the peak of their powers, but lack of pace wasn't what undid us today.

      We're faultering in almost all areas (primarily midfield and up forward) so I'd be quite content promoting anyone who warrants it, regardless of their perceived pace.
      Good points... I don't think we were out paced...
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      • The Underdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2007
        • 6809

        #48
        Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

        For those wanting Grant as a lead up forward, he put in a lot of poor leads with weak one handed runs under the ball yesterday. I wasn't impressed at all. Skipper worked his arse off and Reid was really impressive in the middle when Willy were travelling well.
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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66210

          #49
          Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

          Out: Eagleton, Hahn

          In: Williams, OKeefe

          If Minson is suspended, then Skipper in.
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #50
            Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

            From listening on radio - we need a tall target across Half Forward and Hahn is not providing it. Skipper has to come into calculations - he has been working his backside off in the magoos and surely deserves a chance.

            If Williams is fit and comes back in, then we run the risk of being too tall!
            I would like to see Everitt played as an attacking wingman - where I think he is better suited.

            In: Skipper, Williams, Reid or Ward
            Out: Hahn, Addison, Hudson

            We need to make changes and not be afraid to try some guys who havent had a run this year (Skipper / Reid).

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            • angelopetraglia
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6800

              #51
              Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

              Originally posted by teddy54
              From listening on radio - we need a tall target across Half Forward and Hahn is not providing it.
              More than a target we need our forwards to put some pressure on the oppositions defenders when they are running the ball out. Our defensive pressure tonight across our half forward line was a joke.

              Maybe we should look and playing Harbrow up forward to ensure our forward line defensive pressure improves. He was also dangerous in last years Prelim final across half-forward.

              Hahn is the player normally providing that pressure but doesn't appear to be getting near it at the moment.

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11122

                #52
                Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                IN: Skipper, Callan, O'Keefe/Reid, Ward
                OUT: Minson, Hahn, Gia, Addison

                Minson, Hahn & Gia have been poor. They've turned it over and they've applied no pressure at all. They all need a spell at Williamstown. It's a bit of experience going out, but they've been terrible for almost the entire year. Addison has been terrible lately, his disposal and decision making is replicating his form of 2-3 years ago.

                Skipper's been performing well and might give us a target up forward. He at least deserve an opportunity to impress after solid form. Callan is desperately needed - I can't emphasize that enough. Harbrow really needs to be released to the forward half, which is a positive for both our back/forward structures. One of O'Keefe/Reid should play - undecided on who. I'll leave that up to others who know more. I'm leaning towards O'Keefe though, for his ability to go forward and hit a target.

                I'd like to see Ward play a few games at Williamstown, but the reality is, we almost have to include him because of so many poor performing forwards/midfielders. He apparently had a big game for Willy which was good to see. I'd be hesitant to include him, but we don't have too many other options. As another poster said - he might be of use up forward with his solid hands and disposal.
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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #53
                  Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                  Originally posted by 42-C-3
                  Minson possibly suspended, looking for goals.

                  Where are all you Peter Street hating bloggers now????

                  Just like when the club pushed out Trent Bartlett and sought goals.

                  Funnily enough, both The Tall One and The Ugg could have got a call up this week on current teams form....
                  Oh please say it aint so! Yes Streets 2 possession games are being sorely missed

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15326

                    #54
                    Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                    IN: Skipper, Callan, O'Keefe/Reid, Ward
                    OUT: Minson, Hahn, Gia, Addison

                    Minson, Hahn & Gia have been poor. They've turned it over and they've applied no pressure at all. They all need a spell at Williamstown. It's a bit of experience going out, but they've been terrible for almost the entire year. Addison has been terrible lately, his disposal and decision making is replicating his form of 2-3 years ago.

                    Skipper's been performing well and might give us a target up forward. He at least deserve an opportunity to impress after solid form. Callan is desperately needed - I can't emphasize that enough. Harbrow really needs to be released to the forward half, which is a positive for both our back/forward structures. One of O'Keefe/Reid should play - undecided on who. I'll leave that up to others who know more. I'm leaning towards O'Keefe though, for his ability to go forward and hit a target.

                    I'd like to see Ward play a few games at Williamstown, but the reality is, we almost have to include him because of so many poor performing forwards/midfielders. He apparently had a big game for Willy which was good to see. I'd be hesitant to include him, but we don't have too many other options. As another poster said - he might be of use up forward with his solid hands and disposal.
                    Minson was by far our best ruckman yesterday and actually took a couple of grabs up forward. I cannot agree with this decision.

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                    • Missing-Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3102

                      #55
                      Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                      I thought Everitt performed well in the back half and was a steady contributor.
                      Minson besides a dumb free kick he at least contests, has some fight, presents and kicks a couple of goals. Much more than can be said for alot of the others!!

                      We have alot of small midfield type players under performing that are not tackling who are or look slow...Thats where the changes are needed!

                      Also hes a great captain and tries hard but has Johnno gone on for a year to long?

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                      • Missing-Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3102

                        #56
                        Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                        Out : Eagleton, Minson

                        In : Grant, Skipper

                        Grant can be the lead-up half forward. His pace and the expanses at Footy Park will suit him.

                        Murphy needs a run across half-back. Could be a good match up for Porplyzia. The Crows will try and use Porplyzia as much as possible and hopefully bring Murph into the game. If Porplyzia plays as a deep forward, Dale goes to him. We should try and get either Gilbee or Murphy as a loose man behind the ball. Good in theory, but difficult to manufacture.

                        Not sure about Tommy if he is fit. Everitt did enough to hold his spot although he may struggle against Tippet when he goes forward for the Crows. If Tommy is fit, it maybe a chance to rest Johnno. He looked sore at times yesterday and with physical games against Geelong & Sydney in the next month it's a chance to give him a week off, get some touch against Melbourne the following week in readiness for the cats and swans.

                        If Tommy does play, that can free Everitt to run through the mid-field (take Eagleton's place on the wing)

                        There have been some calls for Gia to be dropped. Admittedly his form has suffered over the last few weeks, but against a tight checking team like the Crows, I think we will need his precise skill to hit targets. For this reason Eagleton does not get a game.

                        Skip has the endurance to play deep up forward and help out in the Ruck. Can't get involved in a battle for strength with Rutten, he will win out every time. We have to be smart with our delivery to Skip. Kick to his advantage and get crumbers front and square.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66210

                          #57
                          Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Minson was by far our best ruckman yesterday and actually took a couple of grabs up forward. I cannot agree with this decision.
                          I thought Minson was one of our better players on the night.
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                          • The Underdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6809

                            #58
                            Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Minson was by far our best ruckman yesterday and actually took a couple of grabs up forward. I cannot agree with this decision.
                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            I thought Minson was one of our better players on the night.
                            I gave him best on for us purely because I thought he gave 4 quarters of effort, ran as hard as he could and tried to be accountable, which made him better than the midfielders who worked under him. He's heading into scapegoat territory because he's not the key forward many want him to be but he was clearly better than Huddo yesterday and while I don't know how much improvement he has in him he can't be faulted on yesterday's effort.
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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11151

                              #59
                              Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                              Agree on Minson as well - rucked well and provided some sort of presence up forward. He responded positvely to a period of poor form. The only area that he let himself down last night was in giving away stupid free kicks once again. Also gave away a costly 50 in the 1st qtr when we were matching it with the Saints which resulted in gifting a goal and momentum back to the Saints. Also he will come under scrutiny for his needless altercation with Goddard.
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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15326

                                #60
                                Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                                Originally posted by The Underdog
                                I gave him best on for us purely because I thought he gave 4 quarters of effort, ran as hard as he could and tried to be accountable, which made him better than the midfielders who worked under him. He's heading into scapegoat territory because he's not the key forward many want him to be but he was clearly better than Huddo yesterday and while I don't know how much improvement he has in him he can't be faulted on yesterday's effort.
                                Shouldn't that be re-named 'Farren Ray' territory?

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