We could do a lot worse than.....

[LostDoggy]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

So what is your proposal? As much as he is viewed through rose coloured glasses, Grant was not very good in his debut, and his lack of effort in the second half could not have been rewarded with another game, whilst 21 other blokes were putting in more effort.

Please... if we were judging all our players on one game then I can go and write a list of 10 players that fit every criteria on your list. At least Grant has an excuse, it was his first game and no doubt he will improve.

I dont think I stated anywhere that he will be cut if he is not good enough, I am saying that at age 21 it's time to help push his development along by giving him a prlonged spell in the seniors. As for his fitness, I bet you he can run longer and harder than Wil Minson ever could, so I don't think fitness is an issue.

[Mofra]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

Please... if we were judging all our players on one game then I can go and write a list of 10 players that fit every criteria on your list. At least Grant has an excuse, it was his first game and no doubt he will improve.

But you are proposing we give gametime to someone who clearly doesn't deserve it, then propose we cut players who gets games when they don't deserve it. It has to be one or the other.

As for his fitness, I bet you he can run longer and harder than Wil Minson ever could, so I don't think fitness is an issue.

Minson has been playing a forward/ruck role at senior level, Grant a forward only role at a lower level. Unless this is a perception based only on size, I would expect Minson, who has done more pre-seasons an is playing a more physically demanding role than Grant currently, would have it all over Grant in terms of fitness. It is also worth noting that Grant was hampered for much of last year with OP, which would also menat he would have started the pre-season from further back in teh fitness stakes.

[Mantis]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

Guys I have it on pretty good authority that Grant just isn't fit enough to play AFL yet.

Expect to only see him make brief appearances for the team until his body shape & fitness improves.

Short term pain for long term gain I feel.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

Guys I have it on pretty good authority that Grant just isn't fit enough to play AFL yet.

Expect to only see him make brief appearances for the team until his body shape & fitness improves.

Short term pain for long term gain I feel.

That's a fair enough call. I think it's very easy to underestimate the fitness needed for playing AFL and the difference between AFL and VFL fitness levels.

[azabob]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

Grant isn't ready yet, and the team isn't performing well enough with their decision making and disposal to help him get into games. Maybe if we were flying it would be a different story.

[Mofra]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

Guys I have it on pretty good authority that Grant just isn't fit enough to play AFL yet.

Expect to only see him make brief appearances for the team until his body shape & fitness improves.

Short term pain for long term gain I feel.

I'd believe it, based purely on what I saw during the game. He simply couldn't link up the way AFL footballers should (though I would never doubt Mantis' sources ).

[1eyedog]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

It was great to see endeavor in the first few minutes when he ran after and took Judd down. Great commitment. The lead and mark later that quarter was also encouraging

[Mofra]

Re: We could do a lot worse than.....

It was great to see endeavor in the first few minutes when he ran after and took Judd down. Great commitment. The lead and mark later that quarter was also encouraging

It was, but after quarter time he simply didn't look up to it. Is a couple of pre-seasons away IMO from making an impact at senior level.