Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

[The Pie Man]

Re: Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

I figure that Tiller is being pegged as a HB, but any chance he can come in for Hahn and play forward? With Murphy out for the first month + of the season I imagine Eade thought it was too hard to give Hahn a rest, but with Welsh back and Tiller young/hungry/now fit and in the best for Willy, I'd give serious consideration to resting Mitch's rib.

Beauty of Tiller is his flexibility if he was to play forward - can switch to the backline if for example Andrejs is being beaten.

Williams was good on Saturday, full stop. I can see him taking Hawkins.

Hargrave was good on 'Stevie J' in the prelim, I would be very keen to get him back in to play this role again.

Callan will be right in the mix. Other than Murphy, I think Addison will be looked at. Picken lost Davey a bit on Saturday but to be fair it was his first ordinary one.

Some selection posers this week.

[hujsh]

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I figure that Tiller is being pegged as a HB, but any chance he can come in for Hahn and play forward? With Murphy out for the first month + of the season I imagine Eade thought it was too hard to give Hahn a rest, but with Welsh back and Tiller young/hungry/now fit and in the best for Willy, I'd give serious consideration to resting Mitch's rib.

Beauty of Tiller is his flexibility if he was to play forward - can switch to the backline if for example Andrejs is being beaten.

Well Tiller was named forward and did get in the best so maybe it'll be considered.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Out: Murphy, Everitt, Addison
In: Higgins, Hargrave, Grant

I think with Murphy gone we need another lead up target and that could be Grant. He's the sort of kid who just might thrive on the big stage against the best side in the competition.

And that observation is based on what?

Wishing it doesn't make it so.

[LostDoggy]

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In: Higgins Hargrave Callan

Out: Murphy Harbrow Picken

But would love to see Grant play

[alwaysadog]

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And that observation is based on what?

Wishing it doesn't make it so.

I'm with you SS, rather than enjoying the big stage it could well put his development back several years because he has done nothing to show that this is a stage he is ready for.

[The Doctor]

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That's absolute crap, John.

I gave Gia votes.

28 touches, 2 clangers. Game high 6 goal assists, team high 600 metres gained.

We obviously have different views on this Jim. Just because you gave him votes doesn't mean my opinion is as you've described.

I rarely use stats when assessing the performance of a player. My views are simply based on what I see out there. Sure it may be tough on a player with a high possession count but how many of those actually made a difference? I also take into account things like what they do off the ball, how hard they challenge in a contest. These are areas I feel he has been soft in. He certainly had a few mates out there v Melb.

I don't think it would hurt to shake up a few of our under performing senior players.

[Go_Dogs]

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Good opportunity for Tiller to come in and play a lead up CHF role.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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We obviously have different views on this Jim. Just because you gave him votes doesn't mean my opinion is as you've described.

I rarely use stats when assessing the performance of a player. My views are simply based on what I see out there. Sure it may be tough on a player with a high possession count but how many of those actually made a difference? I also take into account things like what they do off the ball, how hard they challenge in a contest. These are areas I feel he has been soft in. He certainly had a few mates out there v Melb.

I don't think it would hurt to shake up a few of our under performing senior players.

The 6 goal assists for starters.

[Desipura]

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Gia will not get dropped, he did some good things but then there were those 2 cute scrubbers that he kicked from only 20 metres out, hardly something a leader would do.
If it was wet weather footy, you might consider kicking it along the ground.
We need to tinker with our game plan. We are a fair way off Geelong and St Kilda, if you do not change the rest of the pack will overtake you. Our precise kicking cannot be sustained against the better teams.

[azabob]

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Gia will not get dropped, he did some good things but then there were those 2 cute scrubbers that he kicked from only 20 metres out, hardly something a leader would do.
If it was wet weather footy, you might consider kicking it along the ground.
We need to tinker with our game plan. We are a fair way off Geelong and St Kilda, if you do not change the rest of the pack will overtake you. Our precise kicking cannot be sustained against the better teams.

I agree, but we dont exactly have a tall forward who we can use as our get out of jail card. Eade obviously doesnt rate Lake, Tiller, Williams, Everitt, Wight or Skipper to be able to perform that role. And of the younger players they are not ready yet.

[Bornadog]

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Gia will not get dropped, he did some good things but then there were those 2 cute scrubbers that he kicked from only 20 metres out, hardly something a leader would do.
If it was wet weather footy, you might consider kicking it along the ground.
We need to tinker with our game plan. We are a fair way off Geelong and St Kilda, if you do not change the rest of the pack will overtake you. Our precise kicking cannot be sustained against the better teams.

I thought Gia played a great game on Saturday, including three magnificent passes to players in the 50 meres leading out. I also thought Harbrow was very good, so I doubt he will be dropped.

[Desipura]

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I thought Gia played a great game on Saturday, including three magnificent passes to players in the 50 meres leading out. I also thought Harbrow was very good, so I doubt he will be dropped.

I did not say he would/should be dropped. Agree that Harbrow was very good.

[Scorlibo]

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And that observation is based on what?

Wishing it doesn't make it so.

I'm with you SS, rather than enjoying the big stage it could well put his development back several years because he has done nothing to show that this is a stage he is ready for.

That's a stupid thing to say, "put his development back a few years", one game isn't going to do anywhere near that damage, instead it's more likely to make Grant bring his work rate to the required level after getting a taste for the big time.

You doubters only have to look back to the game against Adelaide when Taylor Walker stepped up and kicked 4 goals - while looking lost for all other games this season. Improvement will come if we give him a chance and we all saw what a better side we were with Murph there as a lead-up target.

[Mofra]

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That's a stupid thing to say, "put his development back a few years", one game isn't going to do anywhere near that damage, instead it's more likely to make Grant bring his work rate to the required level after getting a taste for the big time.

Watchign his game a couple of weeks back, he looked lost, and couldn't run out individual passages of play, let alone a quarter. He simply doesn't look ready.


Zac Dawson didn't after too well when thrown to the wolves either - took years & a delisting before he was senior-ready again.

[Scorlibo]

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Watchign his game a couple of weeks back, he looked lost, and couldn't run out individual passages of play, let alone a quarter. He simply doesn't look ready.


Zac Dawson didn't after too well when thrown to the wolves either - took years & a delisting before he was senior-ready again.

The difference being Grant has bucketloads of talent and Dawson has very little.

I'd like to see the number of players who had a poor first game but proved to be a great senior addition in their first/second season despite their apparent physical immaturuty. Look at Taylor Walker, Stephen Hill from this year.