Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

[mighty_west]

Re: Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

Ailse 3, near the vitamins. There's a bottled product called REALITY that you need to purchase.

I recommend downing the whole ****ing thing in one go.

Next time i buy myself a salad to go with a barby, we don't have to search far for a tosser.

[knowitall]

Re: Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

As a regular reader (but not so regular poster) I have to say its disappointing to see our posts degenerate into name calling. People have the right to opinions and people have the right to disagree, people also have the right to abuse other posters (but one thing that has set this board apart from BF in the past has been the lack of this in favour of interesting discussion). I can't help feeling the board is drifting into BF territory.

FTR I also think O'Keefe should get a look in this week over Ward (people who criticize O'Keefe's foot speed and call for Ward inclusion perplex me because Ward is the slower of the 2).

For mine: O'Keefe, Higgins and Callan replacing Murphy, Everitt and DFA

Fair enough you think O Keefe should get a look in over Ward this week, seeing as though O Keefe has been consistently good, but how you think O Keefe is quicker then Ward really surprises me. After watching all bar one game Willi has played this year, the way Ward can use his pace when his confidence is high is amazing. Yes, he plods along sometimes and looks slow, but when he gets going, he is not slow at all.

IMO OKeefe is not quick at all, but plays on at every cost. And that's what makes him loook quicker. Never do you see O Keefe run with the ball, or take people on by using his pace, like Ward does when he is playing well.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Fair enough you think O Keefe should get a look in over Ward this week, seeing as though O Keefe has been consistently good, but how you think O Keefe is quicker then Ward really surprises me. After watching all bar one game Willi has played this year, the way Ward can use his pace when his confidence is high is amazing. Yes, he plods along sometimes and looks slow, but when he gets going, he is not slow at all.

IMO OKeefe is not quick at all, but plays on at every cost. And that's what makes him loook quicker. Never do you see O Keefe run with the ball, or take people on by using his pace, like Ward does when he is playing well.

Ward easily outrun O'Keefe all pre-season, both in sprints and longer stuff.

[knowitall]

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Ward easily outrun O'Keefe all pre-season, both in sprints and longer stuff.

20 metre sprint: Ward - 2.95 O Keefe - 3.01
3.2 kilometres: Ward - 11.16 O Keefe 11.46

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

20 metre sprint: Ward - 2.95 O Keefe - 3.01
3.2 kilometres: Ward - 11.16 O Keefe 11.46

Both of those figures for O'Keefe astonish me, especially the 3.2 km time. We were told O'Keefe was typically 4th last in the time trials beating home only Roughead, Hudson and Jones.

[LostDoggy]

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Both of those figures for O'Keefe astonish me, especially the 3.2 km time. We were told O'Keefe was typically 4th last in the time trials beating home only Roughead, Hudson and Jones.

Thirty seconds is still a fair distance behind - more to the point, perhaps Ward's time isn't all that flash

[Mantis]

Re: Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

20 metre sprint: Ward - 2.95 O Keefe - 3.01
3.2 kilometres: Ward - 11.16 O Keefe 11.46

Are those figures from this past pre-season or from some other time? (Draft camp)

[Go_Dogs]

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Given the injuries then I think this will be the go:

Out: Murhpy, Addison and Everitt

In: Callan, Ward, Tiller.

No room for Higgins BAD?

[hujsh]

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Just not sure if O'Keefe would be able to keep up with the fast paced Cats.

Stack atleast has some real leg speed which would be helpful.

They may move the ball quickly but in terms of leg speed they're no quicker than we are.

[Jasper]

Re: Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

Western Bulldogs
B: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Tim Callan
HB: Lindsay Gilbee, Tom Williams, Dale Morris
C: Nathan Eagleton, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Josh Hill, Mitch Hahn, Brad Johnson
F: Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Scott Welsh
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen
I/C: Shaun Higgins, Daniel Giansiracusa, Liam Picken, Callan Ward
Emg: Brennan Stack, Stephen Tiller, Wayde Skipper

In: Callan, Higgins, Ward
Out: Robert Murphy (hamstring), Andrejs Everitt (foot), Dylan Addison (knee)

[Bornadog]

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Probably will go that way when making the selections.

Although Ward's spot could go to a number of people. Stack? O'Keefe?

I forgot about Higgins

[Sedat]

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I forgot about Higgins

Is he a definite inclusion? We've had a late change every game so far this season.

[Go_Dogs]

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Is he a definite inclusion? We've had a late change every game so far this season.

That's what I'm wondering too - found it a bit strange he's named on the interchange. Given the match is tomorrow night, might be a case of security in case he doesn't quite get up. Who really knows though, the selections all year have been very mysterious, which I don't mind.

[Mantis]

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They may move the ball quickly but in terms of leg speed they're no quicker than we are.

Yeah, I was talking about ball movement.

[Jasper]

Re: Round 9 Ins and Outs Vs Geelong

20 metre sprint: Ward - 2.95 O Keefe - 3.01
3.2 kilometres: Ward - 11.16 O Keefe 11.46

Both of those figures for O'Keefe astonish me, especially the 3.2 km time. We were told O'Keefe was typically 4th last in the time trials beating home only Roughead, Hudson and Jones.

This is 2009 data and and on top of that O'Keefe has improved by about 24 seconds on his 2008 time trail results.
I'll think you will find that there is a few players like Grant, Cordy, Shaw and a couple of others that also lag behind O'Keefe in the distance running.
Ward has a tendency to lope around but has enough toe when it counts both when he has the ball or chasing his opponent.