TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

[The Adelaide Connection]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Welsh had his eyes on Crouch most of the way, he wanted to take him out!

With Murph's, he re-arranged Ellis's face somewhat, and you know how they go, the more damage caused, the bigger penalty, which is fair enough.

I agree to an extent. The damaged caused should be taken into account to gauge the force of the contact, especially when intentional, but if for example Barry Halls punch didn't knock staker out (far fetched I know) and he was able to play on that game, should Hall have got less weeks?

I can't remember who Gardiner hit, but the message to that player would be "I should have reacted and play acted so that b_astard got rubbed out for more". That is a dangerous message to throw out there. We would all hate if players started to do that but I would understand him wanting to get Gardiner maximum weeks after he gave him a cheap one off the ball behind play.

[mighty_west]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

I agree to an extent. The damaged caused should be taken into account to gauge the force of the contact, especially when intentional, but if for example Barry Halls punch didn't knock staker out (far fetched I know) and he was able to play on that game, should Hall have got less weeks?

I can't remember who Gardiner hit, but the message to that player would be "I should have reacted and play acted so that b_astard got rubbed out for more". That is a dangerous message to throw out there. We would all hate if players started to do that but I would understand him wanting to get Gardiner maximum weeks after he gave him a cheap one off the ball behind play.

Not far fetched, any example could be used for debate, had Staker been knocked out cold, stretchered off, even had a fracture in there as well, i'm sure Hall would have recieved for more than the 6 he recieved, i mean 6 weeks is a big whack, and he copped it, as it was a deliberate blow with force, but with more damage, could have copped 8-10.

Gardiners forarm jab had some force, but not enough to do any damage, didn't even make his victim fall to the ground, just a slight stumble, if anything, it was as stupid as one of those tummy taps but slightly worse, i believe tummy taps only recieve a reprimand these days.

If i had the choice of which blow i was to cop, i'd take the Gardiner over Welsh blow any day of the week, Gardners was just a quick brain snap, Welsh lined his player up.

[Missing Dog]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

I would love to see some down the ground footage of the Welsh report, as well as a close up to see whether he made contact with the head.

Under the new rule (changed after the Maxwell case), if he made contact to the head, than he is wasting his time (and getting an extra week) going to the tribunal.

[mighty_west]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

I would love to see some down the ground footage of the Welsh report, as well as a close up to see whether he made contact with the head.

Under the new rule (changed after the Maxwell case), if he made contact to the head, than he is wasting his time (and getting an extra week) going to the tribunal.

He made contact with the head alright, and has accepted the 1 week.

Lake is contesting, as he should, that report was a farce.

[mighty_west]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

I would love to see some down the ground footage of the Welsh report, as well as a close up to see whether he made contact with the head.

Under the new rule (changed after the Maxwell case), if he made contact to the head, than he is wasting his time (and getting an extra week) going to the tribunal.

There you go Aker, 2 frames, one frame before impact and contact, you can see Crouch's head tilt as Welsh's ahoulder hits flush with the side of his face, remember he has momentum going into the bump, had eyes on Crouch for [approx] 2 metres.

[Missing Dog]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

There you go Aker, 2 frames, one frame before impact and contact, you can see Crouch's head tilt as Welsh's ahoulder hits flush with the side of his face, remember he has momentum going into the bump, had eyes on Crouch for [approx] 2 metres.

Thanks Mighty West.

That is pretty clear isn't it. Club made the correct decision to accept the 1 week.

[mighty_west]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Can't believe Welsh got a week for that, has the bump gone?

The bump to the head went out of the game after Byron Pickett kept lining players up, Aker also bumped a player, but to his body, and thats fine, as long as you don't strike the head.

[mighty_west]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Thanks Mighty West.

That is pretty clear isn't it. Club made the correct decision to accept the 1 week.

VEEEERY lucky to cop the 1, but had the good record, had he broken his cheek or jaw, i'm sure he would have copped a heavier suspension.

[Bornadog]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

VEEEERY lucky to cop the 1, but had the good record, had he broken his cheek or jaw, i'm sure he would have copped a heavier suspension.

I am pretty sure there is similar bump Goodes inflicts in the third quarter on I think on griffo, after a boundary throw in. I need to go back on the tape.

[Throughandthrough]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Lake has challenged his verdict.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Lake has challenged his verdict.

Game on!

[Missing-Dog]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Thanks Mighty West.

That is pretty clear isn't it. Club made the correct decision to accept the 1 week.

I can cop 1 week for that. Theoretically it should have been a free kick to Crouch, but too diificult for the umpire to adjudge where contact was made.

I'd be more disappointed if Welsh didn't try to lay the shepherd.

The "bumper" has a duty of care to make sure no contact is made to the head and the "bumpee" should be responsible for his own potection and not rely on the decision making of oppostion players on whether they will bump or not.

This was my argument when Gia collected Kosi. Whilst I applaud the authorities for cleaning up the game and eliminating acts of thuggery (Grinter style), I fear we are raising a generation of footballers who do not have the awareness skills needed to protect oneself out on the park. It only takes a split second to tense your body and prepare for the hit you are about to take and it's a skill that you acquire after playing the game as it's supposed to be played.

By "discouraging" the bump we are all deprived of one of the truly great skills of our game. Some of my greatest memories are of watching Steve Wallis lay perfect hip and shoulders.

Well done Welshy.

[Missing Dog]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Brian Lake cleared

[The Coon Dog]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Brian Lake cleared

Thanks Aker! Correct decision in my view. I spoke briefly with James Fantasia today & he was quietly confident that Brian would be cleared. He said the contact was with Brian's hip, not his foot.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: TRIBUNAL NEWS. Lake and Welsh get a week each

Brian Lake cleared

Yep, it's great news - Herald Sun reports...

Brian Lake also contested his charge at the tribunal tonight, having briskly had his tripping charge thrown out, enabling him to play in Friday night's game against Richmond.