Hope for Hall.

[Dazza]

Re: Hope for Hall.

I'm all for it. Our structure would be complete for at least one year and it would enable us to develop our young forwards. The only issue I would have is if the playing group felt like we shouldn't go after him. Could be a bit of animosity. But then again... we do have a bloke named Akermanis on our list.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Hope for Hall.

Rocket & Plugger thrived together when most felt he couldn't be controlled.

I was just saying that to my partner!

Barry Hall is like a the super rebellious student and Eade is the teacher who understands him.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Hope for Hall.

I'm not sure how much money professional boxers in Australia earn, but i'll make the assumption that they would have to be pretty good to get more than the 200-300k that we would pay Barry in his farewell season

Grant and Cordy arent ready, even if they were it would suit both of them to play alongside and learn from Barry....Barry would get the senior gorilla sized defender, whilst Lego Man and Beanpole would get the 2nd/3rd best defender...

Performance based contract, we give up a draft pick > pick 40 are my criteria for attracting him to the Whitten Oval

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Hope for Hall.

I'm not sure how much money professional boxers in Australia earn, but i'll make the assumption that they would have to be pretty good to get more than the 200-300k that we would pay Barry in his farewell season

Grant and Cordy arent ready, even if they were it would suit both of them to play alongside and learn from Barry....Barry would get the senior gorilla sized defender, whilst Lego Man and Beanpole would get the 2nd/3rd best defender...

Performance based contract, we give up a draft pick > pick 40 are my criteria for attracting him to the Whitten Oval

Agree with that.

My only point is that I wouldn't want to have to out pay him. I really think it needs to primarily be about redemption for him if it's going to be a success. If we get into a price war it will be doomed before it even starts.

[LostDoggy]

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Grant and Cordy arent ready, even if they were it would suit both of them to play alongside and learn from Barry....Barry would get the senior gorilla sized defender, whilst Lego Man and Beanpole would get the 2nd/3rd best defender...

HAHAHAHAHAH. That is going to be what I call him forever.

And yes, I must add that you raise a good point here. As long as they don't pick up any nasty traits along the way. Actually I could never, ever picture Lego Man or Ayce knocking someone out. Unless it was unintentional.

Ehem, sorry, do continue.

[AndrewP6]

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As you said on the other thread, his punching is probably a result of frustration at poor delivery and a game plan that doesn't suit him. With our boys hitting him on the chest and in front of his outstretched arms, he'll be sweet natured. .

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Bazza sweet-natured?

[Mofra]

Re: Hope for Hall.

I'm not sure how much money professional boxers in Australia earn, but i'll make the assumption that they would have to be pretty good to get more than the 200-300k that we would pay Barry in his farewell season

I believe Danny Green said a few days ago that he tried to lure Hall away last year, and Hall turned it down even though he'd earn more as a boxer.

Grant & Cordy aren't going to be ready next year to play a full season of seniors, they are in the physical development phase of their careers. Roughead is a ruck and wont be our forwardline savior.

I'm warming to the idea of Hall only if we can get him cheap. PSD would be ideal, but I wouldn't be upset to see a late pick go for him.

[Mofra]

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Worth mentioning that Minson, Hall & Hahn in the same forwardline at times would be one scary propositiuon for opposition backlines.

[bulldogtragic]

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Worth mentioning that Minson, Hall & Hahn in the same forwardline at times would be one scary propositiuon for opposition backlines.

Add in Brian, Hargy's right and HUddo, and we would win most mellees.

[comrade]

Re: Hope for Hall.

Add in Brian, Hargy's right and HUddo, and we would win most mellees.

Sam Reid and Cal Ward don't shy away from the argy-bargy either.

A few years ago we were perceived as a team of light-weight, front runners.

Now we're chock full of hard nuts - I like it.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Hope for Hall.

Sam Reid and Cal Ward don't shy away from the argy-bargy either.

A few years ago we were perceived as a team of light-weight, front runners.

Now we're chock full of hard nuts - I like it.

We are moving in the direction of a Geelong, team full of strong bodies, just with a few less tats and facial hair (Hudson makes up for most)

Remember in 2005 when we were the skinny, fleet footed, young and skillful Dogs....

If we get Hall next year we may end up having a similar balance of tough nuts in the team to what we had in the late 90s....remember Southern, Dent, Libba, Dimma, Jose, Kretiuk etc

I wouldnt want to pay Hall too little...I think his performances would suffer if he went from $500k at Sydney to $150k at the Dogs

We need to get the balance right...performance based incentives could work...and with some of the young guys coming out of contract we would have to be careful from a remuneration perspective, plus if Aker plays on we will have to pay him whats his worth

[azabob]

Re: Hope for Hall.

Sam Reid and Cal Ward don't shy away from the argy-bargy either.

A few years ago we were perceived as a team of light-weight, front runners.

Now we're chock full of hard nuts - I like it.

Ward loves the hard stuff. In his debut game against the Saints he wasn't backwards in coming forwards in a push and shove. Last week against North he laid a couple of tackles and they were good hard tackles.

[bulldogtragic]

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We are moving in the direction of a Geelong, team full of strong bodies, just with a few less tats and facial hair (Hudson makes up for most)

Remember in 2005 when we were the skinny, fleet footed, young and skillful Dogs....

If we get Hall next year we may end up having a similar balance of tough nuts in the team to what we had in the late 90s....remember Southern, Dent, Libba, Dimma, Jose, Kretiuk etc

And Stevy Kolynuik. Who took out Phil Matera i think it is. And the argy bargy first at Subi when Southern's headlock was a little too strong and Michael Gardiner's debut at the Western Oval (i think it was then). That was awesome, teams feared us and we had aplace of wind, rain and mud and no-one could play it like us. I miss that about the lawn green at Ethihad, a real home ground advantage. And i miss a really good welcoe to footy to the guy who thinks he's a superstar.

Before that i remember we were the nice team, everyone's seconf and they hoped we'd win a flag. Then overnight we went to a bunch of crazy pricks who are thugs, tag, negate and fight - and we were successful.... Then we went back to nice doggies poor old odggies agin. I for one for love to be hated, a part from Richmond it generally means you are succeeding. I like our tough edge now. Gia's tackle on Tredrea was awesome as was Higgins ripper and push back on Barry Hall. And i really loved Huddo dishing out jumped punches to all and sundry when Ward was singled out a few weeks back.

[boydogs]

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Performance based contract, we give up a draft pick > pick 40 are my criteria for attracting him to the Whitten Oval

Would it matter whether Welsh, Johnno and Aker kicked on for another year or not? If all 3 stay I'm not sure it would be worthwhile/affordable

[bulldogtragic]

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Would it matter whether Welsh, Johnno and Aker kicked on for another year or not? If all 3 stay I'm not sure it would be worthwhile/affordable

Welsh would have to retire, despite asking for another year.

If he was on Welsh's cash and some incentives, for a 4th rounder or a fringe player. They do well taking players that can't crack it. Perhaps they could turn Skipper into a part time ruck to help Jolley and use Skip an Jesse White up forward for some height to bring in Buchanan and Jack. ???