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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15324

    #31
    Re: Football Glossary

    'In the Mix'

    My most hated term come draft time.

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    • The Pie Man
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2008
      • 3498

      #32
      Re: Football Glossary

      There or thereabouts
      Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13189

        #33
        Re: Football Glossary

        Yeah nah (the start of every footballer's response to a question).
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27654

          #34
          Re: Football Glossary

          Originally posted by 1eyedog
          Yeah nah (the start of every footballer's response to a question).


          I really truly hate the term "Yeahnaaah" WTF does it mean and why say it?
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #35
            Re: Football Glossary

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            I really truly hate the term "Yeahnaaah" WTF does it mean and why say it?
            I sometimes fall into using this and hate it when I do.

            It means, YEAH I understand the point you are trying to make from your perspective on the situation but NAH the reality way off...

            Very lazy english.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #36
              Re: Football Glossary

              Originally posted by mjp
              If he says stupid things like 'checkside' then best not listening too him. It is a BANANA for goodness sake. The kick is shaped like a banana - a three year old immediately understands the concept...what does 'check side' even mean?
              'Check-side' is a term bastardised from its original use in snooker which, along with its sister term 'running-side', describes the concept of the type of side-spin one can impart on a cue ball.

              A check-side spin causes a cue ball to narrow the angle of rebound (compared to if there was no sidespin on the ball) and slow up after it hits the cushion.

              ('Running-side' spin, on the other hand, causes the cue ball to rebound wider and also speed up when compared to the normal reaction of a cue ball without said sidespin.)

              If I were to hazard a guess, the bastardised version of the term would have become common usage in football to allude to the fact that you have to kick the ball with some level of sidespin in order to make it curve in the air.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: Football Glossary

                Originally posted by AndrewP6
                ah yes, the loose man in defence... I understand it (I think!) but doesn't that mean one of the opposing players has no one defending him?
                The loose man would presumably be marked by the tight man- the tight man being the one that protects his... pocket!

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                • AndrewP6
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8142

                  #38
                  Re: Football Glossary

                  Originally posted by Lantern
                  'Check-side' is a term bastardised from its original use in snooker which, along with its sister term 'running-side', describes the concept of the type of side-spin one can impart on a cue ball.

                  A check-side spin causes a cue ball to narrow the angle of rebound (compared to if there was no sidespin on the ball) and slow up after it hits the cushion.

                  ('Running-side' spin, on the other hand, causes the cue ball to rebound wider and also speed up when compared to the normal reaction of a cue ball without said sidespin.)

                  If I were to hazard a guess, the bastardised version of the term would have become common usage in football to allude to the fact that you have to kick the ball with some level of sidespin in order to make it curve in the air.
                  Yeah, what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  That's the gist of the explanation I got when I was a junior...
                  [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10090

                    #39
                    Re: Football Glossary

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    Yeah nah (the start of every footballer's response to a question).
                    Hear that one more often on the cricket pitch
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • alwaysadog
                      Senior Player
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1435

                      #40
                      Re: Football Glossary

                      The inside – outside analysis is almost 20 years out of date.

                      Terry Wheeler had the idea when he coached the club of insiders (in and under players) who won contested ball in packs; Axe, Libba and Wally and shoveled it out to skilled players in space like Leon Cameron who then distributed it with great aplomb to attacking moves. He would have different ideas today but that was his analysis then.

                      This was fine until coaches started to realize that if you hunted the receiver of such efforts you didn’t have to win the ball yourself or could negate the advantage so gained. Today they also clog up space by having strategic patterns around stoppages etc. In fact Smith when he coached Melbourne in the late 50s initiated this at throw ins.

                      That is why today’s football is not so easily described as insiders and outsiders because both Cooney and Griff are usually under great pressure when they receive the ball and need to duck and weave to get space to distribute. They are not any longer outsiders, not only because they have very little space on receipt of the pill but also because they play a role in extracting the pill in the first place in certain situations.

                      I would argue that there are two sorts of insider players these days; the first are the ball winners in our case typified by Crossie and Boyd and the pack breakers like Coon and Griff, but both roles are interchangeable. Especially when they play ring a rosie handball in packs looking for an openning and by the time they find one it might be the player who won the ball who also ends up breaking free with it, just watch what the cats do.

                      As for outside players, well Terry Wallace wanted a team full of runners in which everyone became an offensive threat at certain times and this trend continues, so it’s hard to think who isn’t an outside player; it depends on how and where the ball is won, and how it moves.

                      I don’t think anybody stands back and says my role is purely defensive I won’t get involved in this attacking move by making space to receive and move the ball on.
                      Last edited by alwaysadog; 25-11-2009, 12:54 PM.
                      [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13189

                        #41
                        Re: Football Glossary

                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nice analysis aad.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • alwaysadog
                          Senior Player
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 1435

                          #42
                          Re: Football Glossary

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nice analysis aad.
                          Thanks 1eyedog, but I'm certain some will disagree.
                          [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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                          • mjp
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7305

                            #43
                            Re: Football Glossary

                            Originally posted by alwaysadog
                            The inside – outside analysis is almost 20 years out of date.
                            Yeah - but so is the concept of around about 12 positions on the ground. Doesn't stop people calling for player 'x' to play on the wing when no-one does that anymore.
                            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #44
                              Re: Football Glossary

                              "The modern game" - The term loved by commentators and despised by me. Just when exactly did footy become 'the modern game' and why wasn't I told at the time? And what the hell was I watching before footy became 'the modern game'? It felt pretty modern at the time but it never pranced around with 'the modern game' label like we have to suffer through now.

                              'The modern game' is wheeled out by fools whenever they feel the need to explain what is happening when two ordinary teams with ordinary skills and ordinary coaches meet and play an ordinary brand of football. That's been happening for one hundred years; so why only now do we blame the present?

                              Seriously, when did 'the modern game' start? It can't be when players stopped holding position and started filling space because that's been happening for more than a decade and surely it isn't that modern any more.

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                              • alwaysadog
                                Senior Player
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1435

                                #45
                                Re: Football Glossary

                                Originally posted by The Rocket
                                "The modern game" - The term loved by commentators and despised by me. Just when exactly did footy become 'the modern game' and why wasn't I told at the time? And what the hell was I watching before footy became 'the modern game'? It felt pretty modern at the time but it never pranced around with 'the modern game' label like we have to suffer through now.

                                'The modern game' is wheeled out by fools whenever they feel the need to explain what is happening when two ordinary teams with ordinary skills and ordinary coaches meet and play an ordinary brand of football. That's been happening for one hundred years; so why only now do we blame the present?

                                Seriously, when did 'the modern game' start? It can't be when players stopped holding position and started filling space because that's been happening for more than a decade and surely it isn't that modern any more.
                                Shortly after a certain G Healy was allowed out of where ever he had been put for safekeeping and allowed behind a microphone.
                                [I]I believe there's nothing on this earth that we own. All we do is look after it for our children - Terry Wheeler[/I]

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