Football Glossary

[Missing Dog]

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inside and outside players - I'm going to guess that an inside player is one that is first to the ball in a pack, and often the one buried beneath a stack of players?...and an outside player one that hangs around waiting for the ball to come out?

100% correct

[AndrewP6]

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100% correct

whoo hoo! Cheers, strebla!

[mighty_west]

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inside and outside players - I'm going to guess that an inside player is one that is first to the ball in a pack, and often the one buried beneath a stack of players?...and an outside player one that hangs around waiting for the ball to come out?

Inside : Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd

Outside : Nathan Eagleton, Ryan Griffen

Adam Cooney & Callan Ward you could say are in & outside players, who like it both ways!

[AndrewP6]

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Inside : Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd

Outside : Nathan Eagleton, Ryan Griffen

Adam Cooney & Callan Ward you could say are in & outside players, who like it both ways!

Thanks MW.... I've always wondered that about Coons...

[GetDimmaBack]

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No such thing as "the fat side" when I played footy...of course, in those days you got dragged for kicking across goal in the last line of defence, too!

Which side is "fat" depends on the foot you're kicking with, doesn't it?

[LostDoggy]

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Inside : Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd

Outside : Nathan Eagleton, Ryan Griffen

Adam Cooney & Callan Ward you could say are in & outside players, who like it both ways!

Griff is both ways too these days. Gun clearance player -- probably did more work inside this year than outside, which contributes to perceptions about his reduced effectiveness.

[LostDoggy]

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inside and outside players - I'm going to guess that an inside player is one that is first to the ball in a pack, and often the one buried beneath a stack of players?...and an outside player one that hangs around waiting for the ball to come out?

Inside player: Hard nut, has a shovelling motion when going for the ball, can't kick.

Outside player: Sublime disposal skills, soft as shit and can't stick a tackle.

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The best players can tackle, extract, and have good disposal, so they can't be pigeonholed with either label, which, in my opinion, is actually a bit of a backhanded compliment.

Ps. Now what do we call a Farren Ray who can't kick and can't stick a tackle? Potential premiership player, it looks like. No justice in this world.

[Mantis]

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Griff is both ways too these days. Gun clearance player -- probably did more work inside this year than outside, which contributes to perceptions about his reduced effectiveness.

Once he fixes up his disposal (hopefully it can be addressed) and increases his fitness base he will become the best midfielder in the competition. Some of his work to extract himself out of a tight situation on Friday was frighteningly good, so good that I doubt any other player bar perhaps GAjr could have weaved his way out of the traffic he confronted.

The challenge now is to produce the form he showed over the past 2 weeks over the course of the entire season. If he can it could well be the difference between being a top 4 side to a side that is playing off for a premiership.

I hope it is sinking into Griff just how good he can become and just how much his own performance influences the teams overall performance.

[LostDoggy]

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Once he fixes up his disposal (hopefully it can be addressed) and increases his fitness base he will become the best midfielder in the competition.

These two are linked, surely. Griff's disposal under normal circumstances has to be right up there with the best (he'll nail a goal on the run on the training track 99 times out of a 100) -- it's when he's just busted a gut getting the ball, handballing it out from under a pack, getting up, running clear, getting the ball back, weaving around one or two players, THEN disposing of it that it can get pretty erratic.

[Hot_Doggies]

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These two are linked, surely. Griff's disposal under normal circumstances has to be right up there with the best (he'll nail a goal on the run on the training track 99 times out of a 100) -- it's when he's just busted a gut getting the ball, handballing it out from under a pack, getting up, running clear, getting the ball back, weaving around one or two players, THEN disposing of it that it can get pretty erratic.

Disagree.

Griffen kicking needs work, his ball drop gets very lazy.


Griffen and Cooney are both poor on the left side.

[LostDoggy]

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Disagree.

Griffen kicking needs work, his ball drop gets very lazy.


Griffen and Cooney are both poor on the left side.

Because he's fatigued, maybe? (thus my point)

It's not as if his usual kicking action needs any work.

[Hot_Doggies]

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Because he's fatigued, maybe? (thus my point)

It's not as if his usual kicking action needs any work.

I don't think its fatigue. He can do it at any stage during the game.

Other players in the AFL work hard and drop the ball correctly. I think it's a mental thing with Griff, footy comes a bit easy to him. Maybe blame his past coaches (maybe Eade aswell) for allowing it.

[AndrewP6]

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BUMP.

Just thinking about this thread, reminded me of an old basketball coach I had. A well-known identity in wheelchair sports, he played in 4 Paralympics (back in the 60s), and as a junior, I really admired him. When teaching me to shoot off the backboard, he used to refer to a 'checkside kick', when talking about the grip I should use on the ball (I didn't completely follow his advice!) For years as a kid, I had NO IDEA what a 'checkside kick' was, but not wanting to appear silly, I never said anything.

If only WOOF had existed then...

[mjp]

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If he says stupid things like 'checkside' then best not listening too him. It is a BANANA for goodness sake. The kick is shaped like a banana - a three year old immediately understands the concept...what does 'check side' even mean?

[Mofra]

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"Step Up"

A bullshit term that actually means improvement.

Maybe we need a cliche thread?