Tall Forwards we Chased - where are they now?

[mighty_west]

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What happens if Minson or Hudson go down?

Swans have White, Pike & Currie who have the physical attributes to ruck at senior AFL level. Skipper is our only realistic back-up ruck option this year.

I don't think the Swans would be interested in a 193cm back-up ruckman who would be ~4th in line.

As i mentioned, i would have thought the Swans would want to play White as a key forward most of the time with a chop out from Goodes, so i'm not sure if they would want to play White too much in the ruck.

We have Roughead who has the body to play if required, i would have liked to see him given a game or 2 this year, but unfortunatly went down with a shoulder earlier on which set him back somewhat, i believe John Barnes has also mentioned that he could be pretty much ready to be given a shot, naturally he's not going to take the number one spot, but a shot here or there couldn't hurt.

For all we know, with Skip being regarded as just a back up player so being in form won't allow him for a promotion if Minson & Huddo keep injury free, he might also request another opportunity elsewhere anyway.

[The Coon Dog]

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An old high school nickname based on insults of others

Go back to the lady ga ga post to have the blanks filled in.

[Mofra]

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We have Roughead who has the body to play if required, i would have liked to see him given a game or 2 this year, but unfortunatly went down with a shoulder earlier on which set him back somewhat, i believe John Barnes has also mentioned that he could be pretty much ready to be given a shot, naturally he's not going to take the number one spot, but a shot here or there couldn't hurt.

If he has a solid pre-season he might be a decent back-up, but he couldn't finish a VFL season uninjured so obviously need more conditioning (it's not all simply about weight).

Shaw is an interesting one - a few in favour of keeping him as a back up as he's had longer in teh system and was a year older than Roughy when drafted. List management is going to be very interesting this year.

[Mofra]

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Go back to the lady ga ga post to have the blanks filled in.

No response, keeps up the poker face

[mighty_west]

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If he has a solid pre-season he might be a decent back-up, but he couldn't finish a VFL season uninjured so obviously need more conditioning (it's not all simply about weight).

Shaw is an interesting one - a few in favour of keeping him as a back up as he's had longer in teh system and was a year older than Roughy when drafted. List management is going to be very interesting this year.

I can't commment too much on Shaw, i haven't really seen him play, but from all reports, he seems to be coming along pretty well, getting a few senior VFL games in this season, another pre season for himself as long as he is retained, and who knows, he COULD be an option if required to play a bit part.

But with Roughead, i guess if you have the body, you are pretty much half way there, from the few occasions i have seen him play, he has gone about it quite well in the ruck.

[mighty_west]

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If he has a solid pre-season he might be a decent back-up, but he couldn't finish a VFL season uninjured so obviously need more conditioning (it's not all simply about weight).
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No it's not, which is interesting for why you mentioned Currie & Pike as back up options for the Swans, Pike is a Canadian who will need PLENTY of time to develop & would Currie be any more ready as an AFL player compared to Shaw & Roiughead for us?

[Mofra]

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No it's not, which is interesting for why you mentioned Currie & Pike as back up options for the Swans, Pike is a Canadian who will need PLENTY of time to develop & would Currie be any more ready as an AFL player compared to Shaw & Roiughead for us?

When I mentioned it's not all about weight, I think it's more about conditioning which Pike definately has due to his age & time spent playing other professional contact sport (Roughead didn't have the conditioning hence he broke down with injuries).
Currie has had more time & more development than Roughead and played in the pre-season comp as second banana this year. White has the body although the Swans want to use him forward.

[Topdog]

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Some players are really dumb.

A few years back Fergus Watts wanted to come back to Melboure so he picks St. Kilda because he baracked for them as a kid. They already dad Riewoldt, Koschitzke and Gehrig and now he's playing metro footy.

Campbell should have simply walked out on Freo last year. he'll spend another year in the WAFL next year before oblivion. Tim Boyle will never be heard from again.
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And retired.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,26044771-19742,00.html

Since being drafted in the 2002, Boyle’s career has been interrupted with injuries. He suffered a broken leg in the 2004 pre-season ruling him out for the season before he was able to make his debut in Round 13, 2005.

Boyle enjoyed a breakthrough season in 2007 as a dangerous marking forward. He played 20 games including Hawthorn’s two finals matches and was the team’s third highest goal kicker.

His last two seasons have been hampered with injury. A hip injury in Round 3, 2008 allowed him just six games for the season and in May this year as he was gearing for a return to the senior side he suffered an ACL injury which ultimately ended his season.

[Sedat]

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And retired.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,26044771-19742,00.html

Since being drafted in the 2002, Boyle’s career has been interrupted with injuries. He suffered a broken leg in the 2004 pre-season ruling him out for the season before he was able to make his debut in Round 13, 2005.

Boyle enjoyed a breakthrough season in 2007 as a dangerous marking forward. He played 20 games including Hawthorn’s two finals matches and was the team’s third highest goal kicker.

His last two seasons have been hampered with injury. A hip injury in Round 3, 2008 allowed him just six games for the season and in May this year as he was gearing for a return to the senior side he suffered an ACL injury which ultimately ended his season.

Susan Boyle has more currency - maybe Pelchan can try and swindle her into a lop-sided trade

Now that Hawthorn are clearly very keen to talk turkey during trade week, it will be very interesting to see if any clubs bother returning calls from that scumbag Pelchan. If I was North, I'd tell him they can have Gibson but it will cost one of Hodge or Rioli, and if he doesn't like it he can piss off.

Essendon developed a very average list in the last 4 years under Sheedy because clubs flat-out refused to deal with the Bombers any more during trade week. This meant Essendon could not improve their list at the trade table, and more importantly they could not off-load any of the duds from their list - and Sheeds being a stubborn bugger refused to delist the likes of Mark Bolton and Henneman until a blind man could see they were not going to make it at AFL level. Same thing could very well happen to the Hawks.

[Desipura]

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Essendon developed a very average list in the last 4 years under Sheedy because clubs flat-out refused to deal with the Bombers any more during trade week. This meant Essendon could not improve their list at the trade table, and more importantly they could not off-load any of the duds from their list -.

Solomon & Kepler Bradley

[Sedat]

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Solomon & Kepler Bradley

Post Sheeds

[Desipura]

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Post Sheeds

Thats incorrect, Sheeds was coach in 2006 when Solomon was traded to Freo.
Bradley was delisted by Essendon and picked up at pick 69 in 2007 draft.

[Sedat]

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Thats incorrect, Sheeds was coach in 2006 when Solomon was traded to Freo.
Bradley was delisted by Essendon and picked up at pick 69 in 2007 draft.

Well spotted (I thought Solomon was after Sheeds left). Anyway the point is that clubs became very wary of Sheeds bearing 'gifts' when a number of them had been swindled in the past. Pelchan being such an unpleasent negotiator, and having also done some swindling himself (Hay for 2 first rounders), might also find it difficult to negotiate with the clubs he has pissed off in the past.

[The Coon Dog]

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Pelchan might also find it difficult to negotiate with the clubs he has pissed off in the past.

Including Sydney over the past few years with Peter Everitt & Ryan O'Keefe.

[Topdog]

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And us with Higgins for Boyle (or Thorpe can't remember which).

This is similar in all sports. In the NBA the Portland GM has been bragging how great he was by gettings a heap of draft picks and stockpiling talent. Then he threatened to sue any club which picked up a player they had "retired".

This off season he needed to do some trades and no one even spoke to him.