Ryan Griffen?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ryan Griffen?

I think he has the ability to be elite but the reason why he does not have great results in our B and F is because it rewards consistency, something which he lacks.

Very rare he plays 4 good quarters or 5 or 6 good games in a row

Something he needs to work on

True. Even in the games he's turned it on, I don't recall it being for 4 quarters?

[stefoid]

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The more damaging he gets, the more he will get tagged, which means he has to respond to that with workrate and defensive efforts - areas he worked on last year.

Really, we dont need him to star, we just need him to be effective when tagged, like cooney is - they cant tag everyone - higgins and co run riot

[Topdog]

Re: Ryan Griffen?

That's the pint I was getting at. He's labelled by some of our supporters as elite, superstar, under rated by AFL followers, and a potential Browlow winner, yet in what some say is his break out year he still doesn't make our clubs top 10. That indicates to me he's rated about the right level by all other than some of our own supporters.

Everyone was saying he was over rated towards the end of last year and then after the finals series (in which he would have won a finals B&F) they were saying he has the potential to be a Brownlow winner. He has never been consistent with the Dogs and that is why he doesn't poll well in our B&F.

They are very few fans who actually watch other teams games nowadays, most people make up their mind from highlights and stats so it is pretty pointless listening to the majority.

[Twodogs]

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They are very few fans who actually watch other teams games nowadays, most people make up their mind from highlights and stats so it is pretty pointless listening to the majority.

That's a really good point.

[Topdog]

Re: Ryan Griffen?

That's a really good point.

I should point out I am occasionally guilty of doing it too. I was talking about Freo last year to a friend before calling myself a tosser as I hadn't seen them in 5-6 weeks.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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Just because he had a career best year, doesn't always guarantee a Top 10 B&F finish, especially when the club was a kick away from the big one.

I don't think the club underrates his contribution, but perhaps some AFL supporters do. (I know a few Crows supporters who were only too happy to bag him and suggest he wouldn't even make their side late last year - the same ones who'll probably be singing the 'come home Griff' anthem when FA starts up mind you!).

At a guess, Griff would have finished just outside the Top 10, and this just says to me, the side had a good year more so than Griff's contribution wasn't great. The fact that most believe he's capable of more may have also contributed.

FWIW, Griff did finish in the Top 10 in 2008 (I'm 99% sure it was 9th) and he clearly had a better year in 2009 for mine. Make of that what you will.

Given the strength of our midfield, Boyd, Cooney, Cross, Higgins, Picken and possibly Moles would love to see Griff tried at Centre Half Back. His straight ahead style would make him a great attacking defender in a position where we have been deficient in for a long time

[Mofra]

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Given the strength of our midfield, Boyd, Cooney, Cross, Higgins, Picken and possibly Moles would love to see Griff tried at Centre Half Back. His straight ahead style would make him a great attacking defender in a position where we have been deficient in for a long time

His opponent would drag him back to the goalsquare & murder him overhead. Griff is a midfielder, certainly not KPP material.

[lemmon]

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Given the strength of our midfield, Boyd, Cooney, Cross, Higgins, Picken and possibly Moles would love to see Griff tried at Centre Half Back. His straight ahead style would make him a great attacking defender in a position where we have been deficient in for a long time

Same concept as moving him back to a hbf where he excelled early on in his career. Maybe a move back there is where he fits in most.

[Mofra]

Re: Ryan Griffen?

Same concept as moving him back to a hbf where he excelled early on in his career. Maybe a move back there is where he fits in most.

HBF is a little different to manning up against the monsters at CHB.

Given he is a genuine line-breaker I want him in the action a bit more - people have mentioned his inconsistency but one good quarter where he creates a coupel of inside 50s from disputed contests, in the modern era of football where inside 50s are dropping and quality of delivery is king, can be the difference between a win and a loss in the modern game.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Ryan Griffen?

Thought this might make for an interesting 'bump'.

As is probably beyond obvious to all those who have posted with on this site over the years, I love Griff. Has again stepped it up so far this year. His work rate is very good, and he wills himself to win the ball and receive it in space too. Occasionally his kicking can let him down still, but it's improved on a whole, and his goal kicking has become a real feature.

He's officially our most important player IMO, hope he keeps up the great work.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Ryan Griffen?

He was our best by a country mile Sunday.
Needs help in the midfield urgently!