Disgraceful

[Mantis]

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Just not good enough.

Agree.

Their job is to play football and they get paid very well do so. The players just have to do their job each and every week like the rest of us have to.

[LostDoggy]

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How ever you wanna paint the picture, we lost to a side that hasnt won a game in melborne for 2 years. I would of thought that says it all. What's this 2nd half good effort rubbish....

They have no incentive to finsih high up the bottom 8

I have to agree TAMA, my impression of the rocket era is that we are no longer to accept mediocrity. We are so much better than what we showed in the first half and we proved it in the second half.

Injuries rubbish - we showed it in the second half that our team was better than theirs.

Training regime rubbish - if we were tired we wouldn't be able to destroy the opposition by 10 goals in the second half, we would be even flatter.

No bloody excuses dogs, we need to beat first Brisbane and then at least one of Cats n Pies to make the 4; and we do want to make the four, play the saints if we have to, beat them and have a rest.

If my boss told me that if I worked extra hard for the next 4 weeks then I could have a week off then I would bust a gut.

Or would we prefer to be bundled out of the final in the first week?

[LostDoggy]

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I am starting to think the maybe some players just don't care. Not all because that would be ridiculous but maybe the team does carry a few blokes each week.

The senior players that I have noticed to be down in the last two weeks.
Lake
Hargrave
Boyd
Cross
Griffen

These guys are usually consistent but are of the pace a little and the results there for every one to see. Unfortunately if these guys drop of our depth is not good enough to cover there poor efforts.

[Missing Dog]

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Anyway we played shit and copped the defeat we probably deserved. Seeing how we respond next week and for our remaining games will give us a much better idea on where we are heading as yesterdays performance wasn't a true indication of how good a team we are.

heard that phrase all year, and we've had enough games to tell us we are heading: Geelong, St Kilda (twice), Collingwood, all losses. I think if we played Adelaide tomorrow we'd lose. We now know we are: about 5-6th best in the AFL. Where are we heading? With this list, 6th best.

[Mantis]

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heard that phrase all year, and we've had enough games to tell us we are heading: Geelong, St Kilda (twice), Collingwood, all losses. I think if we played Adelaide tomorrow we'd lose. We now know we are: about 5-6th best in the AFL. Where are we heading? With this list, 6th best.

Add Higgins, Murphy, Gia & Welsh to the team and we are a top 4 team. (especially the first 3 names)

Do not under-estimate how important it is to have your best players up and going, just ask Geelong.

[LostDog]

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Scott Clayton called me today - he is now recruiting fans for the gold coast

[Eade's Enigma]

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WAS JUST WONDERING IF AND WHEN THE COACHING STAFF ARE GOING TO TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILTY FOR A GAME PLAN AND FORWARD SETUP THAT JUST DOES NOT WORK AGAINST THE TOP SIDES AND NOW IS NOT WORKING AGAINST THE LOWER SIDES.
JUST LIKE THE LAST THREE YEARS WE LOOK LIKE FADING AWAY IN THE LAST 7 ROUNDS!!!

[LostDoggy]

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Look at moi Bulldogs, look at moi. I've got 2 words for you - WASTED OPPORTUNITIES.

This has been happening all year, how many shots at goal do we need to miss? The Collingwood game - I could quite clearly remember Johnno missing 2 set shots (1st & 4th quarters), Minson kicking into the man on the mark (2nd quarter), and I've blacked out the rest of that games memories. Yesterday was even worse. The big difference was that West Coast capitalised on their forward 50s, we obviously didn't. I hope it's a HUGE wake up call for the boys, and we come out firing the next 3 weeks, and in the finals.

[azabob]

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Apology accpeted.

2nd point - Doesn't help when 4 starting forwards are in the sheds.

RE the forwards can someone explain to me why the forwards get sucked up the ground so often? Numerous times yesterday we would gain possesion but would have no one to kick to.

Unsure why they didnt just get Johnson to play from the goal square to give us a target.

[azabob]

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Oh but keep giving him a game because he's tall.

GOK can't get a game despite performing week after week, but all these athletes are given a free ride into the team. Surely we need some footballers out there, not just gorillas.

Eade obviously has his "best 22" in his head and wont go outside that unless injuiries happen. So therefore there is no reward for effort for the younger guys coming through.(Unless they can't play, but how do you know if you dont give them a game?)

Was this the case when the wheels started falling off in Sydney?

[anfo27]

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look at collingwood or the saints if you dont perform your out, thats how it should be. Big fan of hill but he should of been dropped a month ago, he's form has dropped off big time. Eagleton should be sacked, Everitt traded not up to it mentally, Williams will he ever live up to the hype? Minson will he ever use his big frame up forward & take a mark. i think our team as a whole wont ever have what it takes upstairs to compete with the big guns over the course of 22 games, finals i hope will be a different story.

[Max469]

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Terrible game as everyone has said before this.

Disappointing but every year someone gets beaten by the bottom teams in the 2nd half of the season. Not that I am happy it us mind you.

Yes, it was the most disgraceful game I have seen from our boys in a long time. I think I even I could have got a game - at least I turned up.

On Thursday night, Ayce Cordy said the game was played 90% (TCD is was 90% wasn't it?) in the mind. This is true. Unfortunately, our guys don't play with anything over 50%.

They need to start finding their targets, their confidence, believing in themselves and start backing themselves in, like the other teams do.

Too late now to think we can just turn up and play one quarter of the game - sorry guys - game over.

Catch up footy is just not on - if you can catch up from 47 points down in one quarter - imagine what they can do if they played 4 quarters of footy.

We, as supporters want and deserve more - so should the players.

[bulldogtragic]

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Still feels just as bad today...

[AndrewP6]

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Williams will he ever live up to the hype? Minson will he ever use his big frame up forward & take a mark. i think our team as a whole wont ever have what it takes upstairs to compete with the big guns over the course of 22 games, finals i hope will be a different story.

Not really fair on Tom. He doesn't create the hype, and trying to live up to other people's expectations is a sure way to fail. He has to improve on what the coaches want, and what he knows needs work.

To say we "won't ever have what it takes upstairs" is way too harsh, IMO.

[AndrewP6]

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RE the forwards can someone explain to me why the forwards get sucked up the ground so often? Numerous times yesterday we would gain possesion but would have no one to kick to.

Unsure why they didnt just get Johnson to play from the goal square to give us a target.

I've noticed this for much of this season, I reckon. Not sure what the answer is, maybe when we get possession -eg- via a turnover, it's just players not working hard enough to create a forward option. Others might have a more expert view on this.