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In all the times and awful feelings i've felt at the footy. This is second to the 1997 pre-lim. Gutted.Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023Comment
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Yes, there is obviously emotion coming through. But there've been numerous times this year when many issues raised here have come up. We have spent a great deal of time this year aimlessly bombing it forward. That's a problem that needs addressing. THe remainder of the season is going to be tough, but todays effort was worse than the belting we got at Subi earlier in the year. To me, that says there are deeper issues.
Agree on Cooney. He didn't use it that well, but the run is returning.[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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Very disappointed by an insipid display again, my dreams are broken by my dogs again. All is lost unless we win 2 of the next 3.Comment
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Yeah. Alot of players were non existant today. Hill played well. Hard call on stack as he provided pressure but just didnt get on the end of things. Everitt is a liability. Aker easily B.o.g for us.
I'll probably edit this as I sober up.Comment
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Is it too drastic to say I'll never go to another game whilst Eagleton is picked in the 22, including any finals?Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.Comment
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No. I was formally his biggest supporter. I hope he can get one more game to play 200 for the club, but i have changed my position to re-sign him on the vet's to cut him out ASAP either now, or for his sake and stats sake, one more game. He has been a passenger for near on 2 months. Like Rocco has been saying, i'd like to see some attitudes and good 2nd's form rewarded now, or moving Hill/Everitt to the wing to see how they go. The very definition of insanity is doing the same things and expecting different outcomes. We need to change team selection and unfortunately for Nathan's sake, i don't see how he is positively contributing at the moment.Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023Comment
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Simply outcoached and outplayed. I've seen their training drills and they hit targets on chests of leading forwards. Why don't they play the way they train?. Where oh where is plan B? Last week Fremantle showed WCE how to beat us. Early on Flood Dogs backhalf , and the Dogs forwards desert their positions en masse, then can't run fast enough or smart enough to right positions when we bring it out of backline. Later just take control of the corridor and force dogs to boundaries. It's where they prefer to go anyway.
Without a KPF we will never straighten up. Minson or even an Everitt must stay in position inside 50 and just provide a contest and bring the ball to ground. Nobody should try to outmark this KF. Smaller forwards either present another option or crumb - simple as that.
We really seem to have lost our way! and I'm not convinced that blaming the players is necessarily correct. At various stages today we had Addison, Williams or Everitt as spare man in defence. None of them have the experience or nous to fulfill that role to any advantage. Blame a coaching staff that allows inexperienced players to be left out to dry with Hargrave either panicking or plain dumb and flaky laky as your leaders. Luckily Lake had a slack kickout that went 25 metres to a WCE player brought back or they would have scored another goal. His best is counteracted by his worst and can hardly inspire confidence in his young defenders. Why didn't Johnno go or be sent down to provide some leadership and drive in the spare man role?
I understand teams are tired at this point but it is the lack of direction and the absence of any evidence of some plan that they are trying to work towards, that makes me think that the coaching staff are overrated. A year of planning and I've seen U16s with more sense of cohesion and structure. Oh and what about having someone in the square when either team is shooting for goal and not turning your back on the player with the ball at vital moments! Junior football should teach you these simple rules. Disappointed but not surprised by today's result. We are limping towards September but should be organising for 2011.Comment
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The EFFORT in the first quarter and a half was terrible - I said this in my previous post. The effort and work rate from that point forward was very good. You might not like the execution - I agree, at times it was poor - but given the comments I really wonder what games everyone has been attending earlier in the season as for me it was a basic repeat of every other game (wins and losses).
In terms of ball use (let's focus on the second half when we actually had the ball) - we got a 'par' performance from every player except Cooney (who kicked very poorly compared to his normal output). But if anyone is surprised at the way the rest of the players kicked the footy...well, they always kick that way. It wasn't surprising that when we took marks inside 50m the players kicking it in there were Aker (Cross took a mark) and Gilbee (Eagleton took a mark then butchered it). The rest of them were pretty much the same as always - Hill forces it to the impossible spot, Eagleton, Hargrave and Hahn blaze away, Ward and Boyd kick it too flat and it goes wide (would help if the forwards led at the ball carrier though), Griffen is similar to Hill but tries to force it at 1 bazillion miles an hour, Cross runs backwards and looks to handball....that is what they do and it is what they did today.
If we had won by 10 goals - which is what our second half form translated too - no-one would be calling these faults to account yet they have been clearly evident all year (all career???). So why weren't they all being criticised last week....In fact, last week moving DFA to the forward line was a coaching masterstroke - today I have read 4 separate posts suggesting it is the dumbest plan ever conceived...so which is it?
Why is it that every time we lose the same culture of blame comes out on this board and it is all about 'sack him', 'drop him', 'never play again', 'Not renewing my membership'...everyone knows from age 6 that there are more kicks in the bum than licks of the icecream if you want to get involved in a footy club. Today the playing group got a nice kick up the backside. Fine. They need to play better. Fine. From my perspective - based on what the playing group have delivered this year - I am confident that they will. In the last 3 months it is only the St Kilda game that was a real let down in terms of the scoreboard - and say what you will about that, but we were only 3 goals down at 3/4 time when the whole '19th man' incident seemed to trigger a collapse. Basically, as members we are getting good value for money at the moment - and even today, it would have been very easy for the players to simply write it off as 'one of those days' at half time. They weren't prepared to do that though and nearly pinched a game they deserved to lose.What should I tell her? She's going to ask.Comment
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