Listen Kids, Just Say 'No'!!!

[azabob]

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I have thrown up some silly trades to generate discussion. But Bob you really need to put 100 or so smiley faces after this stuff, or people might think you actually think this would happen. This is so ludicrous, on so many levels. Please insert as many smiley faces or sarcastic faces as the system allows.

Couldn't care less if it happens but what is so "silly" about it? And exactly how many levels is this ludicrous?

GOK isn't getting a game with us. W/C is still a devloping midfield.
Hansen isn't getting a game with W/C. Two lead up players is better than one.
Hall won't be at Sydney next year and Sydney may be looking for a second ruckman which is Seaby.

And which suggestion is more ludicrous people trying to come up with ways for us to get Pavlich or my suggestion of 3 C grade players or 1 B grade players changing clubs?

[bulldogtragic]

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Couldn't care less if it happens but what is so "silly" about it? And exactly how many levels is this ludicrous?

GOK isn't getting a game with us. W/C is still a devloping midfield.
Hansen isn't getting a game with W/C. Two lead up players is better than one.
Hall won't be at Sydney next year and Sydney may be looking for a second ruckman which is Seaby.

And which suggestion is more ludicrous people trying to come up with ways for us to get Pavlich or my suggestion of 3 C grade players or 1 B grade players changing clubs?

Firstly the ludicrous was premised on Ryan O'Keefe, which you cleared up. That reduces my comments down to 'not ever going to happen' as opposed to 'ludicrous'.

Secondly, i agree, Pavlich will never be at the WBFC, and they are pipedreams and arguably ludicrous.

But just because some clubs have needs, means jack-shite. It's about striking deals that compliment the value of players. Seaby and Hansen could easily attract (low) 3rd round picks, but for argument sake, let's say a 3rd rounder and 4th rounder.

Are you suggesting that WCE will effectively offer us 3rd and 4th round draft picks for a kid who can't crack the seniors, and is yet to play a game. What has Guy done which would demand such a high price??? - And if you didn't notice two weeks ago, the WCE midfield is quickly developing and will be a premier midfield in a few years. I don't see Ock fillinf a gaping need, or any need for that matter.

Perhaps take Hansen out, and you may just be on to something (if WCE rated Guy highly enough, but for a kid with absoultely no AFL experience, that would be questionable). But even if they did, WCE would want our 3rd rounder at a minimum on top of it to get Hansen.

It is for these foregoing reasons that he trade you suggested is without merit.

[mighty_west]

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Regarding Hansen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zNjQecyjE8

If that is the best the HIPster kids can come up with, the Operation Get Hansen crew don't have alot to worry about..

[bulldogtragic]

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If that is the best the HIPster kids can come up with, the Operation Get Hansen crew don't have alot to worry about..

Your just jealous we beat you to the punch. We heard you were going to post the 'yes, yes, yeeesss' scene from 'When Harry met Sally', but we outsmarted you with a cunning scene from Scrubs, didn't we now.

[mighty_west]

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[bulldogtragic]

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Must have been a slow week for goal of the week. And how many years ago???

[hujsh]

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No left foot!!!

Nah great goal.

[Desipura]

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Hansen is 198cm

[bulldogtragic]

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Hansen is 198cm

Street is 204cm.

[Desipura]

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"I don't care how good he is, he can't be a KPP, he is only 190cm!!!!".

Perhaps I should have stated this when mentioning he is 198cm.
And on Street, did you not have him on your Avatar bulldogtragic?

[bulldogtragic]

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Perhaps I should have stated this when mentioning he is 198cm.
And on Street, did you not have him on your Avatar bulldogtragic?

Absolutely!!! I was in complete awe of 'The Tall One'. Streety didn't get enough respect for mine, but when 21 other players in a team wont handball, kick, shovel, give, throw, pass, tap, move the ball to him, I could kind of see why his career ended.

[Desipura]

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Absolutely!!! I was in complete awe of 'The Tall One'. Streety didn't get enough respect for mine, but when 21 other players in a team wont handball, kick, shovel, give, throw, pass, tap, move the ball to him, I could kind of see why his career ended.

So why are you comparing Street to Hansen, if you rated Street and you do not rate Hansen?
By the way, I think the reason they did not kick, handball, shove, pass, tap etc etc is self explanatory

[bulldogtragic]

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So why are you comparing Street to Hansen, if you rated Street and you do not rate Hansen?
By the way, I think the reason they did not kick, handball, shove, pass, tap etc etc is self explanatory

Yes, quite self explanatory. Poor Streety, if only he had talent to go with height.

Your point without the context of the foregoing post by Rocco, intimated to me you were basing selection on height alone. That has been cleared up obviously.

I liked Streety but never really rated him, just hoped he could do something. Hansen is the same for mine, and thus the comparison. Hansen has some things which we need, but they just aren't of the quality we need in my humble. After so many decades of trading for dud fringe talls from other clubs, i can't beleive we've found another messiah. Last year Adam Campbell (what a year he's had, shame we missed him), before that Damon White (Athritis of the knees, could have been anything though), before that Toby Thurstans (when he couldn't get a kick in the front half of the ground) and Doogs (which we got, yeah he was a top draft 5 selection... and Clive Waterhouse was a number one pick - maybe we should get Clive?), and the list gets so much worse and guys we actually thought would be great like Cook, Rawlings, Jacko, Tommy Gun, VFL wannabes, The Ugg and so on, and so on.

When will the madness stop? We keep torturing ourselves by looking at and recruiting dud fringe talls from other clubs and then turn on them and the club when it's evident it's not going to work. It's a sickening case of football Münchausen syndrome.

There needs to be a strong intenvetntion to stop the selfharm. That is why HIP was created, to stop the 'Shit KPP to Bulldogs Münchausen syndrome' or 'SKPPBMS'. The madness of Hansen and all like him needs to end!

[Desipura]

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I was just correcting Rocco that Hansen is not 190cm as he had stated, he is 198cm. I am not that naive to say we should pick up a player on height alone.
Also I have at no stage said whether we should look at Ashley.

[bulldogtragic]

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I was just correcting Rocco that Hansen is not 190cm as he had stated, he is 198cm. I am not that naive to say we should pick up a player on height alone.
Also I have at no stage said whether we should look at Ashley.

Desipura, i picked that up after the initial post and the initial post was questioning why (not in so many words) as you are much, much more sensible than to base things on that. And my HIP rant wasn't aimed at you, although it would be nice to know where you stand?