Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

    Originally posted by Happy Days
    They're playing better than they were before?

    Sure they're going to get belted; they're a junk team. But at least they've tried, and even at times looked good under Jade.

    They were insipid under Terry, and have looked at least twice the team since he left.
    Very debatable given the results.

    They looked good late last year under Wallace and beat the eventual premiers.

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10090

      #17
      Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

      Originally posted by ErnieSigley
      Very debatable given the results.

      They looked good late last year under Wallace and beat the eventual premiers.
      They looked good last year, when their senior players were playing well for them.

      They were trash earlier this year when their seniors went missing. Jade has got the younger ones (i.e: Edwards, Tambling, Vickery, Post, etc) firing, hence the improvement.
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #18
        Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

        Originally posted by ErnieSigley
        Some great detective work there. How have you tied this up with the drugs debate?

        Ben Gale being a dickhead is my opinion, I know a few others here think that. The AFLPA are much better with him gone.

        Are you blinded by your vehement hatred of me?
        I'm with Ernie, I think Benny Gale is a dickhead, too.

        I'm mostly against him for his handling of the free agency issue.


        Free agency will be great for a few, bad for most and an unmitigated disaster for the game.

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        • The Underdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2007
          • 6802

          #19
          Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          I'm with Ernie, I think Benny Gale is a dickhead, too.

          I'm mostly against him for his handling of the free agency issue.


          Free agency will be great for a few, bad for most and an unmitigated disaster for the game.
          Surely it's good for the player's wallets and therefore something the head of the AFLPA would advocate.

          I agree it will **** the comp but surely that's up to the AFL admin to negotiate and deal with.
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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            #20
            Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

            Originally posted by The Underdog
            Surely it's good for the player's wallets and therefore something the head of the AFLPA would advocate.

            I agree it will **** the comp but surely that's up to the AFL admin to negotiate and deal with.
            Free agency will only benefit the really good players.

            If Lake and Higgins are out of contract at the end of the year they will get huge salaries thrown at them.

            The salary cap is still in place, so if the really good players are getting more, the standard run-of-the-mill players must get less.

            In reality the Visy ambassador-type deals will become the norm and the best salary cap cheats will win.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

              As President(?) of the AFLPA you would have to think he has some say in the way the game/competition goes into the future. He might think that free agency is good for the players but he fails see to how it will harm the game, fans, teams and therefore the players in the long run.

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              • lemmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6506

                #22
                Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                Agree with Sigley here, Gale has to remember that although he does represent the players he is still accountable to the game as a whole.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44337

                  #23
                  Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                  Originally posted by lemmon
                  Agree with Sigley here, Gale has to remember that although he does represent the players he is still accountable to the game as a whole.
                  Whilst that is actually Andy D's job, Gale has actually been very considerate. One of the main reasons why there hasn't been any real price hikes to go to the footy is that the players under Gale's leadership haven't been demanding huge salary increases.

                  He's primarily employed to look after the players and I think he's been OK to the game.
                  Free agency will come, it's just more about what version we will get.
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                  • AndrewP6
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8142

                    #24
                    Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                    I sense a case of "Wandering Thread Syndrome" here. X 10
                    Last edited by AndrewP6; 16-08-2009, 10:07 PM.
                    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                    • westdog54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6686

                      #25
                      Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                      Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                      Some great detective work there. How have you tied this up with the drugs debate?

                      Ben Gale being a dickhead is my opinion, I know a few others here think that. The AFLPA are much better with him gone.

                      Are you blinded by your vehement hatred of me?
                      Believe it or not I don't actually hate you, just your opinions on certain opinions, but if you're going to be like that and ignore the questions put to me then that's fine, I'll just ignore your posts from now on.

                      Given you didn't actually answer my question I'll assume you avoided it and move on.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #26
                        Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                        Originally posted by westdog54
                        Believe it or not I don't actually hate you, just your opinions on certain opinions, but if you're going to be like that and ignore the questions put to me then that's fine, I'll just ignore your posts from now on.

                        Given you didn't actually answer my question I'll assume you avoided it and move on.
                        I don't give a stuff what you assume.

                        Read it again, your irrevelent question is answered and you didn't explain how you linked the drug debate with this.

                        You mighten hate me but you come from no where to snipe me.

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7305

                          #27
                          Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                          Given Rawlings has been at Punt Road for 2years I am surprised he is still blaming some sort of long-standing cultural issues for a loss. Or is he saying he has not influenced the culture in his time or that he didn't select a side with the correct mindset with regards winning? To me, this is complete avoidance of the issue(s) on the day and whether he believes it or not should have simply been quiet.

                          To me, if the cultural problem is within the player group, then why is he selecting those players? And why react by dropping first year players (Post) who had a bad day made worse by being assigned to a rampant Goodes and bringing back Bowden who (you would assume) is part of the 'long standing fabric' of the place?

                          All I got from it was a message - 'I am not ready for this job'.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • boydogs
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5842

                            #28
                            Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            All I got from it was a message - 'I am not ready for this job'.
                            You would think they would have stood up better against Collingwood after being challenged like that. I reckon it would be a mark against him not being able to get the players to respond to what he said
                            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                            • KT31
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5454

                              #29
                              Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              Well it astounds me, new coach and they still find a way to implode within weeks, i bet Jade wishes he had not taken the reigns.
                              Not so much the team but the upstairs way of thinking.
                              Not as much as we regreted taking on Jade.
                              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                              • westdog54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6686

                                #30
                                Re: Jade Rawlings, too honest this week?

                                Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                                I don't give a stuff what you assume.

                                Read it again, your irrevelent question is answered and you didn't explain how you linked the drug debate with this.

                                You mighten hate me but you come from no where to snipe me.
                                The entirely relevant question I asked was how he has set back the APA and how will he do it with richmond. You answered with 'he's a d*ckhead'.

                                Given your thoughts on the illicit drug policy I made a reasonable assumption that this was the source of your dislike for Gale.

                                If you're going to go calling people d*ckheads on a public forum then expect to be called to account.

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