Ins and Outs - Second Final

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67688

    #1

    Ins and Outs - Second Final

    Unless there are injuries, I doubt Eade will make any changes.
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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15547

    #2
    Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Unless there are injuries, I doubt Eade will make any changes.
    Why not?

    It was obvious that a few of our players didn't produce their best today. Why should they be immune to not finding there way out of the team?

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5159

      #3
      Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Why not?

      It was obvious that a few of our players didn't produce their best today. Why should they be immune to not finding there way out of the team?
      So who do you drop? Those who played badly enough were Hargrave, Mitch Hahn, Daniel Giansiracusa, Ryan Griffen, Will Minson, Dale Morris and Liam Picken.

      Hargrave and Morris are obviously way too important to our defensive structure, as is Hahn to our forward structure. Gia had another poor day, but would probably be in the top 10 selected and is considered a leader of the club. Minson is clearly in our best 2 ruckmna and helps out up forward. Ryan Griffen has shown he can perform in finals and is dangerous when he wants to be.

      The only player we could potentially afford to drop is Picken in favour of a Reid or Everitt. Will they improve the side enough to justify the change? I figure we only make a change to either facilitate Williams return, or if somebody is injured.

      Eade has shown all season he will play our best 22 regardless of form. Why would this change during the finals.
      Last edited by soupman; 05-09-2009, 11:44 PM.
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15547

        #4
        Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

        Picken should have spent more time in the midfield. We were out-paced in there and it killed us on the scoreboard.

        Gia & Eagleton should be looked at in my opinion. Eagleton's use of the ball was very poor and it hurt our chances (especially in the 2nd qtr). Gia looked horribly slow in a fast paced game and unless he eats some 'scooby snacks' his position in the team must come under scrutiny.

        Hargrave & Murphy were also very poor, but they should have a few credits to keep them in the side.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

          I thought Hargrave was VERY poor. How about when he completely took his eyes off the ball and got lost.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

            I think we should remain unchanged and persist with our best 22 for 'this season', next season will be a different story.

            Our 3 worst today in Griff, Hahn and Gia are match-winners and game-breakers on another day. I dont see how Williams would have helped today. Its very concerning to see consistent servants like Morris so far from his nominated opponent on a few occasions but no one mentions his name and rightly so but I think think the aforementioned 3 should be given benefit of the doubt to control and inspire next week.

            The big question mark for me is on Murph, he is so damn important to us but he is only damaging when he has 100% faith in his body, he cant seem to take a trick at the moment and can even be a liablility when he is not right. I dont think resting him next week is the right choice because he takes a game or two to settle but we can beat the lions without him. I just dont think he is right whereas Gia or Griff could turn the corner this week.

            If I was the selectors I would play the same team but move Murph to a HBF or into the sweeper role to take the pressure off him and find some form.

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11407

              #7
              Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

              Gia shouldn't play. He was horrible. Slow, un-accountable and passive in the contests. He gave us nothing and it was possibly his worst game for the club on the back of two ordinary performances. Reid has been very good - form must be rewarded.

              In: Reid
              Out: Gia

              If Everitt plays well tomorrow they might think about him too. This group of players need a little tinkering because they've fallen over in Finals one too many times. Be it fitness or a lack of, we can't play all of Gia/Griff/Murph. One of them has to make way for Reid.
              W00F!

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                Everitt and Reid in, Gia and Griffin out.

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                • DOG GOD
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 6617

                  #9
                  Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                  Originally posted by dogs_r_barking
                  Everitt and Reid in, Gia and Griffin out.

                  Thats what it should be but it wont be.

                  If eade is asked the question we will hear "Griff should be better for the run against the cats, and Gia is getting back to full fitness with each passing game".

                  I doubt any changes.

                  The best way to show faith in the 22 is to not make a change and make it known that he thinks the 22 against the cats can do the job.
                  I will never see #16 the same!!

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13387

                    #10
                    Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Why not?

                    It was obvious that a few of our players didn't produce their best today. Why should they be immune to not finding there way out of the team?
                    Because he has been so reluctant to in the past. I can't see Eade tinkering either, be very surprised actually. IMO this has been an unhealthy component of Eade's decision making all season.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                      For me, Eade seems to play the best 22 players at the club & not ones which will match up well and win games.

                      We are crying out for more height in the team, and with Williams out, Everitt seems the only good option at this stage.

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                      • DOG GOD
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 6617

                        #12
                        Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                        Spot on JH40.
                        I will never see #16 the same!!

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15547

                          #13
                          Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          Because he has been so reluctant to in the past. I can't see Eade tinkering either, be very surprised actually. IMO this has been an unhealthy component of Eade's decision making all season.
                          Agree with that.

                          At some point in time a tough call needs to be made and that time is now. Rocket has put a lot of faith in this group and they continue to let him down when it comes to the crunch.

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                          • Missing-Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3102

                            #14
                            Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                            They wont change, sadly.
                            Would like Everiit and Reid in though.

                            Who takes Bradshaw and Brown??

                            Lake and Morris?? hmmmm... Williams not back

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #15
                              Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                              It would be a good time for Reid to be BOG today.

                              Gia is clearly unfit and I would bet good money he won't play this week.

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