Ins and Outs - Second Final

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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15548

    #31
    Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

    Originally posted by Griffen#16

    Who do you see as the player to move out then?

    Griffen wasn't great yesterday, but he has been a proven finals performer and will be better second game back. As far as like for like, Boyd and Cross weren't fantastic yesterday, but neither of them are going to be dropped and neither should they.

    I'm not disagreeing with you, because Reid had a few pretty good weeks, but I'm not sure who he comes in for, and how much more he'll add in the finals pressure cooker. Defensively he'll do alright, but his ball use will not improve us, neither will his fitness.
    Gia. He isn't fit and it his last 2 performances have been poor.

    We need players who are good in a contest and Gia hasn't been over the past 2 games.

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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10258

      #32
      Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Gia. He isn't fit and it his last 2 performances have been poor.

      We need players who are good in a contest and Gia hasn't been over the past 2 games.
      Yeah, seems about right to me. Not going to be an easy call for Rocket to make though.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15548

        #33
        Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

        Originally posted by Griffen#16
        Yeah, seems about right to me. Not going to be an easy call for Rocket to make though.
        Terribly tough call, but it's one that I feel has to be made.

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        • DOG GOD
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jul 2007
          • 6617

          #34
          Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

          Eade will play Gia coz of his "leadership ability" if anything else.
          I will never see #16 the same!!

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 15118

            #35
            Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

            Originally posted by Mantis
            Gia & Eagleton should be looked at in my opinion. Eagleton's use of the ball was very poor and it hurt our chances (especially in the 2nd qtr). Gia looked horribly slow in a fast paced game and unless he eats some 'scooby snacks' his position in the team must come under scrutiny.
            I though Gia & Hahn were our worst. I actually thought Eagle was one of our better performers for the day, the way he just kept running so when we were running the ball he provided an option that stopped them slowing our ball-speed down.

            Eade has shown a wilingness to give players credits on past performances, so I don't think there will be any changes. Gia would be first out if I was on the match commitee though.

            I'd be looking at Reid & Everitt to come in. I like Tiller & Callan but Reid & Everitt have recent good form at senior level (albeit 1 game in Skinny's case).
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • BulldogBelle
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 5284

              #36
              Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

              The player that I think would really add value this week would be Everitt

              Play him on the half forward line alongside Murphy and a rotation of Hahn, Gia, Johhno, Welsh, Aker and possibly Hill

              Rocket wasnt too happy with Hill in the press conference...didnt mention his name but I'm quite sure he was reffering to Hill with his extra memory / additional k comment.

              Maybe Hill is the man to drop...he gave us one goal yesterday, and in the pressure cooker of finals football, he isnt offering us too much at present


              Agree that Hahn hasnt performed well, although against Brisbane he was OK and against Geelong and Collingwood (H&A season) he was OK as well...he isnt chasing enough, doesnt get of the ground in marking contests and isnt laying as many tackles as usual...

              Gia is another senior player who Rocket will want to keep because of his experience, and the fact that he is still building towards full fitness, I didnt mind some of Gia's games last year in the finals series...the guy cant change direction quickly, and is just running slowly, doesnt have the match conditioning that he needs to play finals football...plus we have probably flogged him on the track trying to get him back to full fitness

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15548

                #37
                Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Reid has to play next week. We need some guys in and around the ball who can tackle and Reid fits the bill.
                On what I saw at Williamstown Reid won't play next week. His groin soreness really effected him today and he spent much of the 2nd half on the bench.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #38
                  Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  On what I saw at Williamstown Reid won't play next week. His groin soreness really effected him today and he spent much of the 2nd half on the bench.
                  Umm, no change then you think? Maybe Everitt to come in for..........could be a few in the mix!

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15548

                    #39
                    Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                    Originally posted by Magic Griffen
                    Umm, no change then you think? Maybe Everitt to come in for..........could be a few in the mix!
                    I only saw the 2nd half, but in what I saw Everitt was pretty quiet. I thought Stack was quite good and could give us a bit of a spark up forward.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #40
                      Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      I only saw the 2nd half, but in what I saw Everitt was pretty quiet. I thought Stack was quite good and could give us a bit of a spark up forward.
                      Strange, you would think that Everitt would have played his heart out, knowing he may have been a chance for next week? Stackilicious eh, Rocco will be happy if he gets picked

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #41
                        Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                        Any chance we bring in another tall defender say Tiller?

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                        • DOG GOD
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 6617

                          #42
                          Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                          If reid and everitt didnt do anything then its a given there will be NO change.
                          I will never see #16 the same!!

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                          • FrediKanoute
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3892

                            #43
                            Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                            I think there has to be a spot for Everitt in the side. Reid I'm less certain of though. One guy I was really disappointed with was Minson. I know he's a big lumbering hulk of a guy, but yesterday he really gave us nothing (wasn't alone). Would we gain anything by dropping Minno for Everitt?

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15484

                              #44
                              Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                              Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                              I think there has to be a spot for Everitt in the side. Reid I'm less certain of though. One guy I was really disappointed with was Minson. I know he's a big lumbering hulk of a guy, but yesterday he really gave us nothing (wasn't alone). Would we gain anything by dropping Minno for Everitt?
                              I said we should drop Minson earlier in this thread as Brisbane rucks are quite mobile and Minson was fairly non exitant yesterday. At least Everitt may be able to provide us some more run.

                              But their will be only one change if any this week.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • FrediKanoute
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3892

                                #45
                                Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                                Originally posted by Dog House
                                Rocket wasnt too happy with Hill in the press conference...didnt mention his name but I'm quite sure he was reffering to Hill with his extra memory / additional k comment.

                                Maybe Hill is the man to drop...he gave us one goal yesterday, and in the pressure cooker of finals football, he isnt offering us too much at present
                                I think dropping Hill would be a bad idea. The prob;em yesterday had little to do with the forwards.....we got murdered in the midfield, there was no pressure, which allowed the Cats to smother our forwards. I really was the exact opposite to 2 weeks ago.

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