Ins and Outs - Second Final

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67706

    #106
    Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

    Originally posted by Magic Griffen
    Might just work Bornadog - I love the way you guys think Everitt, even though he has only shown glimpses of what he may bring to the side, is obviously more mobile than Wilbur, (but gives away body strength at this stage) and Wilbur is a good strong body/target up forward. Even if he doesn't mark everything, he is crashing the packs, so that Missy, Johnno and Murph can rove the packs and kick lots of goals!
    Exactly my thoughts.
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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #107
      Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

      Who takes Minson's man when he runs off him?
      It would be a great decision if he marked his fair share of the ball and kicked accurately. Not sure thats the case.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #108
        Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

        No Change.

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        • The Coon Dog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7579

          #109
          Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

          Originally posted by Charcoal Chicken
          No Change.
          I'm inclined to agree, unless there's an obvious improvement. Just can't see one.
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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14750

            #110
            Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

            In Callan Out Picken

            Callan will be needed this week to go third man up and to fill the hole in front of Brown and Bradshaw. He is not scared to put his body on the line with his kamikaze spoiling.
            The curse is dead.

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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6402

              #111
              Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

              Originally posted by chef
              In Callan Out Picken

              Callan will be needed this week to go third man up and to fill the hole in front of Brown and Bradshaw. He is not scared to put his body on the line with his kamikaze spoiling.
              Picken is certainly not scared to put his body on the line. he is every bit as hard a player as Callan - if not more. Picko has had a great year - has done some huge jobs and has improved every week in terms of decision making. He can also find a goal or two occasionally.

              I can't see any benefit in making the change.

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              • neodog

                #112
                Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                Callan BOG for willi this week. Certainly has more mongrel about him then some of the other current bulldogs player.

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14750

                  #113
                  Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                  Originally posted by Ozza
                  Picken is certainly not scared to put his body on the line. he is every bit as hard a player as Callan - if not more. Picko has had a great year - has done some huge jobs and has improved every week in terms of decision making. He can also find a goal or two occasionally.

                  I can't see any benefit in making the change.
                  I am not saying Picken is scared and you missed my point.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11409

                    #114
                    Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                    Even though Everitt didn't play well by all reports, I wouldn't mind seeing him play instead of Gia. I really don't think they can justify his spot in the side, he could barely run towards a ball let alone escape his opponent or apply any sort of defensive pressure. When Gia lacks fitness, he's slow and is borderline soft. His injury has obviously set him back a very long way and so for mine, he has to miss.

                    Bad luck for Reid (again). Needs to fix his groin issues over the summer.

                    Hill should be given a little more freedom up the field, playing off a wing. I don't think we handle him very well at all. Seems to stay stuck in the forward line where his impact is always going to be limited with such a light frame. The only way he'll mark a ball is if he's able to run and jump from the side. Any physical pressure and he's not going to be able to even contest. I'd give him rests up forward, but would be urging him to use his VO2 to advantage by running the wings and pushing forward hard. He'd offer us a lot more this way.

                    With Everitt in the side, we can probably afford to do this too.
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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11605

                      #115
                      Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                      Originally posted by chef
                      In Callan Out Picken

                      Callan will be needed this week to go third man up and to fill the hole in front of Brown and Bradshaw. He is not scared to put his body on the line with his kamikaze spoiling.
                      Don't mind the 'in' but dropping the wrong player IMO - take your pick out of Gia, Hahn or Welsh instead. Picken is a hard nut that has decent leg speed, a massive tank, great concentration, and goes in fanatically for the hard ball - he is very well suited to finals football.
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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11605

                        #116
                        Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        On what I witnessed yesterday at Willi Reid would have been a liability on Saturday. His groin problems meant that he couldn't run and he needs a spell.
                        Sad news and a most inopportune time for Reid to be affected by such an injury. If he is at or near 100% he simply has to come back into the team to help out our midfield rotations and also provide an additional tagging option at our disposal - he kept Bartel well in check 2 weeks ago, and Bartel was let off the leash on Saturday and was a pivotal player, especially in their forward 50.
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                        • Cyberdoggie
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2861

                          #117
                          Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                          Gia shouldn't play. He was horrible. Slow, un-accountable and passive in the contests. He gave us nothing and it was possibly his worst game for the club on the back of two ordinary performances. Reid has been very good - form must be rewarded.

                          In: Reid
                          Out: Gia

                          If Everitt plays well tomorrow they might think about him too. This group of players need a little tinkering because they've fallen over in Finals one too many times. Be it fitness or a lack of, we can't play all of Gia/Griff/Murph. One of them has to make way for Reid.
                          I agree it was a big mistake dropping Reid as his hardness at the contest evens out the softness of many of the other players in the side.

                          Gia should be dropped but there is no way both he and Eagle would be dropped. Eade never reacts to a loss and he has only dropped Eagle once in his time at the bulldogs (from memory). Gia is the "future captain" and assist king of the side, despite his lack of pressure and speed, i can't seem them dropping him for a final.

                          I agree with Mantis that Picken needs to be given more of a role other than just being a tagger. I think he has earned the opportunity, but i can't see it happening until the new season. I don't know what the idea of of playing on Byrnes was all about either.

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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14750

                            #118
                            Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            Don't mind the 'in' but dropping the wrong player IMO - take your pick out of Gia, Hahn or Welsh instead. Picken is a hard nut that has decent leg speed, a massive tank, great concentration, and goes in fanatically for the hard ball - he is very well suited to finals football.
                            I just couldn't see Eade dropping an experienced player.
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #119
                              Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                              If we need another tall defender, which I think we do, and Williams isn't fit then what happens?

                              No Williams, Wight is shot and Everitt cannot play on Bradshaw... and Callan doesn't have the height either.

                              That to me leaves Tiller and Bou. Bou has had the fitness and form over Stevey T.

                              Could Bou get the nod for team balance?
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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15484

                                #120
                                Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

                                Originally posted by bobmurphy
                                Comrade; Is it time? Time for Bouman to come in and be the 3rd tall defender?

                                Seriously would Bouman would be a better option than Williams when he's fit?
                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                If we need another tall defender, which I think we do, and Williams isn't fit then what happens?

                                No Williams, Wight is shot and Everitt cannot play on Bradshaw... and Callan doesn't have the height either.

                                That to me leaves Tiller and Bou. Bou has had the fitness and form over Stevey T.

                                Could Bou get the nod for team balance?
                                I semi floated this idea yesterday, as I think Williams is very rusty for the first few games after returning from injury.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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