Which opposition player is overrated?

**The Bulldogs Bite** · 06-09-2009, 08:39 PM

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

Bartel isn't as good as the media makes him out to be. He had a very good '07 but even then I didn't think he was in the top 2 or 3 midfielders of the competition. In any case, he's only had that one season to suggest he is one of the best midfielders in the game. Not sure he's really lived up to that 'hype' since though. Ablett, Selwood and Corey would all be head of him IMO.

**Topdog** · 06-09-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by 1eyedog

Why am I being harsh? I'm not saying he is a crap player I'm saying I think he is overrated in the media. I never ever hear anyone in the media talk about Cross so I'm not sure how you could draw comparisons? We are talking about comparing overrated players, not comparing similar type players. If you want to compare similar type players, D. Cross Best and Fairest =1 J. Watson Best and Fairest=0. Watson's a good player but gimme a break James Hird when you say that no other player is more valuable to their team than Watson is to Essendon.

You are being harsh. Commentators have to talk about someone and lets face it Jobe is quite easily their best midfielder. They always only say that he is Essendon's best player and I don't recall anyone in the media claiming he should be AA.

**jazzadogs** · 06-09-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite

Not sure I agree with this. Franklin still kicked over 50 goals despite having an ordinary season. He still won Hawthorn a couple of games off his own boot and although he wasn't as influential this year, he isn't overrated at all. Lake killed Franklin in our only match this year but realistically it's only one game. The guy did boot 8 of the best against us in the QF of 2008.

I think Murphy would be our most overrated player.

Agree that Buddy isn't overrated...he deserves all the praise he gets. Don't think Selwood is overrated either, although as I mentioned in a previous thread I don't like his jelly-legs when touched.

I reckon our most overrated would be Griffen, he really needs to build on his potential.

Dale Thomas is a joke.

**The Bulldogs Bite** · 06-09-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by jazzadogs

Agree that Buddy isn't overrated...he deserves all the praise he gets. Don't think Selwood is overrated either, although as I mentioned in a previous thread I don't like his jelly-legs when touched.

I reckon our most overrated would be Griffen, he really needs to build on his potential.

Dale Thomas is a joke.

Yep. Selwood drives me nuts and moreso the umpires who fall for it every time. It's a joke.

The only reason I didn't say Griffen is because I don't think people talk him up like they used to. The supporters and media have both been on Griff's back the entire year. Murphy on the other hand, seems to fly under the radar. I know he's had a few injuries but Murph rarely performs in the big games and particularly Finals.

**LostDoggy** · 06-09-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Happy Days

No, by those here too

I would have thought its the opposite. In Adelaide they are definetely overrated. The way the played the last month I doubt they are underated. People in Melbourne say they are a major chance not only to beat the pies but geelong also.

**Missing-Dog** · 06-09-2009, 09:09 PM

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

Judds overrated. Ok he does get clearances but his kicking is average
G Albett overrated. Stats aint everything, oftens gets cheap handballs.

Look their great players but they aint all that!

**Happy Days** · 06-09-2009, 09:14 PM

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

Originally posted by ErnieSigley

I would have thought its the opposite. In Adelaide they are definetely overrated. The way the played the last month I doubt they are underated. People in Melbourne say they are a major chance not only to beat the pies but geelong also.

I don't actually think they get their due dilligence. They did just put up 150 on two finals teams. Imagine if Collingwood did that?

**hujsh** · 06-09-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by ErnieSigley

I would have thought its the opposite. In Adelaide they are definetely overrated. The way the played the last month I doubt they are underated. People in Melbourne say they are a major chance not only to beat the pies but geelong also.

I'd doubt the individual players have a much higher profile or are rated better than they were before though.

**LostDoggy** · 06-09-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Happy Days

I don't actually think they get their due dilligence. They did just put up 150 on two finals teams. Imagine if Collingwood did that?

Thats becuase Collingwood are overated not that Adelaide is underated

**BulldogBelle** · 06-09-2009, 09:35 PM

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

Definitely Daisy Thomas. It's like they just expect the stereotypical blonde hair poster boys to be complete and utter stars these days. A star he aint.

**LostDoggy** · 06-09-2009, 09:35 PM

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

Originally posted by hujsh

I'd doubt the individual players have a much higher profile or are rated better than they were before though.

Otten finished 2nd in the rising star, dangerfield and few others were up there too.
Tippett is wanted by everyone.
We all know how good the McLeods, Goodwins, Edwards are.

**1eyedog** · 06-09-2009, 09:47 PM

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

Originally posted by Topdog

You are being harsh. Commentators have to talk about someone and lets face it Jobe is quite easily their best midfielder. They always only say that he is Essendon's next player and I don't recall anyone in the media claiming he should be AA.

I said it wasn't an overly fair assessment, but it's my opinion and I certainly haven't watched every one of his games but I've watched a few. He is one touch but he has average disposal and can be easily pressured.

**ratsmac** · 06-09-2009, 09:55 PM

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Brad johnson is the most overated player in the AFL, aarrr you should of seen your face just then, just kidding, he's a star.
Daisy Thomas is a chump and is really up there in the overated stakes.
Joel Selwood is a gun, if he wore a red white and blue jumper we would love those jelly legs.
I don't know if Jobe Watson is overated though, because if i remember rightly he has always been maligned IMO.
Cam Mooney - overated
Ryan Griffen - overated (especially by me)
Carlton FC - overated, got their just deserves against Brisbane.
Stephen Milne - I just just hate that little so and so.
Anthony Rocca - overated by Mick Malthouse. He was good in his day, Sav was way better though.
Nick Maxwell - Overated not sure, I know a lot of magpies supporters that were very upset when he was appointed captain. He has played a good captains year of footy IMO. Definatly surprised me.
Geelong FC - overated right now. Yes they beat us, but we were terrible with about 5 or 6 passengers, and they only won by 14 points and we kicked ourselves out of a much closer or different result.

**ratsmac** · 06-09-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by ratsmac

Ryan Griffen - overated (especially by me)

Sorry For being hard on griff, but we all love him and are somewhat teased by his potential. He has had an emotional year and done really well considering. Come on Griff.

**Sockeye Salmon** · 06-09-2009, 11:49 PM

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

Overrated Hall of Fame

James Hird
Gavin Wanganeen
Luke Ball
Daisy Thomas
Nick Stevens