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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #16
    Re: Who misses out?

    You already know my take on this, Welsh out for Williams. Callan is handy in that he will not be afraid to go where not many other small backman do. That is in the path of a Riewoldt and Kosi. We will need all the help we can get down back. Welsh has hardly been carving them up in the forwardline.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #17
      Re: Who misses out?

      Thought Callan's hardness at the ball on Friday night was great, and just what we needed. Hopefully, he will hold his spot and carve up that little S ** T, Milne, who I intensely dislike I am a little nervous about Williams coming in (he always seems to be a risky option), and would agree that, if Tommygun is in, it would have to be Welsh that is dropped.

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      • The Coon Dog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7578

        #18
        Re: Who misses out?

        For those that vote 'Some other guy' just curious, who did you have in mind?
        [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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        • Tatts88

          #19
          Re: Who misses out?

          Originally posted by gogriff
          I wouldn't have thought so. I think the Saints would be very happy to be able to draw Dale up the ground with this matchup

          How about Gilbee forward? We brought in Callan for Hill last week to give ourselves that extra defender, in a low scoring game having Gilbee's kicking up there could help in a low scoring defensive game, in bombing them through from 55 and nailing our opportunities with accurate goal kicking. He could also be a stopper against Goddard, Gilbert or Fisher



          Who would you leave out?
          Willimas in for Callan or Welsh, tough call.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14580

            #20
            Re: Who misses out?

            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
            For those that vote 'Some other guy' just curious, who did you have in mind?
            That's the way i voted as i think we need Williams to come against the saints but i am struggling with who to dropped. It was either Welsh or Hahn and I couldn't decide. Callan is going to needed on Schneider, Hargrave on Milne and Harbrow(his opponent would be McQualter) playing more offensively out of the back half IMO. Williams, Morris and Lake to take Kosi, Roo and Gardiner(when he pushes forward).

            I'm glad I don't have to pick the side.
            The curse is dead.

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            • dog town
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 1899

              #21
              Re: Who misses out?

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              If he's fit, I'd have a hard look at Reid.
              Worth considering. This is going to be a brutal game for the whole 120 minutes. As important as tactics and breaking down the saints zone etc are going to be finals so often just revert to a basic contest by contest style. To borrow a line from the movie Platoon "we need every swinging dick out there". I would be surprised if it doesn't cross Rockets mind. Every contest is going to be influential this week.

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              • Desipura
                WOOF Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 4344

                #22
                Re: Who misses out?

                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                If he's fit, I'd have a hard look at Reid.
                At who's expense?

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #23
                  Re: Who misses out?

                  Originally posted by Desipura
                  At who's expense?
                  Welsh is the only position in doubt, I would think.

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    #24
                    Re: Who misses out?

                    For me the ulucky player is Welsh. Not that it influences the MC but Hargrave has said Callan is a must to play. It is going to be a dour defensive struggle so we can't afford to drop Callan who is a real hard nut. Morris has said that we are better in the back half when we have Williams in the team. No doubt his height is a factor.

                    We have enough forwards to kick a winning score. Just like Josh Hill Scott Welsh is a victim of horses for courses.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #25
                      Re: Who misses out?

                      No changes Welsh loose man in front of the Big Roo Sook... he reads the game ok in defence

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        #26
                        Re: Who misses out?

                        Originally posted by hughy31
                        No changes Welsh loose man in front of the Big Roo Sook... he reads the game ok in defence
                        Better then Fisher, Goddard or Gilbert? No way would I do that, Fisher killed Collingwood with 42 disposals last week.

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                        • mighty_west
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3412

                          #27
                          Re: Who misses out?

                          The only change i would even consider would be Williams for Welsh, but as we all know, Williams needs a game or 2 to find his way - it's the Preliminary Final, not round 17, big risk imo, i wonder if Tiller could be an option also?

                          Welsh seems to be the stop gap player down back, is he a better option than those other 2 players, going to be a big call, Welsh has never stepped up to the plate come finals time up forward.

                          Callan has to stay, love his hardness, imo we need at least one of either Callan or Addison, Timmy might just have held onto his opportunity from last week, players like himself, Picken & co will give inspiration to the team by going in hard, and the team will follow, we just have to be 110% ruthless, no second chances.

                          Sorry Scotty, Williams in for Welsh, his game v the Pies, he was rusty as stated, but, kept his man in check, thats all we ask for, if he does nothing else but hold Kosi, thats good enough for me, Morris to take Nick, Williams to hold out Kosi, and Lake to play on 3rd forward and zone off, we are ALOT better down back when Lake can do that, thats the way i would go for the next 2 games.

                          Joshy Hill also unlucky, but, as stated, we have enough firepower going the other way if the game is played on our terms.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: Who misses out?

                            Originally posted by bulldogsman
                            Better then Fisher, Goddard or Gilbert? No way would I do that, Fisher killed Collingwood with 42 disposals last week.
                            I dont think Williams is the answer to play on Roo but they play through him all the time . If we can stifle him they might not have plan B .

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #29
                              Re: Who misses out?

                              I think Williams has to play and be pushed forward as some stage depending on how the game is heading. Welsh to be dropped but i think they are more likely to drop Callan

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                              • Dry Rot
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6432

                                #30
                                Re: Who misses out?

                                Originally posted by hughy31
                                I dont think Williams is the answer to play on Roo .
                                Agreed, but IMO the focus on Williams is misplaced.

                                IMO our biggest hurdle against them will be scoring ourselves, not stopping them. IMO any change should focus on that.
                                The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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