Who misses out?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6924

    Who misses out?

    For me it has to be out of Callan, Williams and Welsh. I definitely would have Callan in. Welsh out, Williams in. Very lineball.
    43
    Tom Williams
    30.23%
    13
    Scott Welsh
    46.51%
    20
    Tim Callan
    27.91%
    12
    Some other guy
    4.65%
    2

    The poll is expired.

  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    #2
    Re: Who misses out?

    I'd put Williams in only IF (and it's a big IF) he's 100%... as for out - if it comes down to it, I'd have to say Callan... hate to say it, as I like him, but anyway..
    Last edited by AndrewP6; 13-09-2009, 07:53 PM. Reason: made a typo
    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

    Comment

    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Who misses out?

      I think i know how Rocket & the selection panel works now, so i believe it will be.

      Out: Callan
      In: Williams

      They won't drop an experienced player in Welsh, won't happen (i would be very surprised if it did).

      This is of course if Williams comes in, otherwise Callan will hold his spot.

      Comment

      • BulldogBelle
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 5284

        #4
        Re: Who misses out?

        Does anyone remember whether we had Williams in the team that beat the Saints last year? I think one of the two games. But then again we had Cam Wight in one of those teams.....

        Comment

        • Rocco Jones
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jun 2008
          • 6924

          #5
          Re: Who misses out?

          Originally posted by JH40
          I think i know how Rocket & the selection panel works now, so i believe it will be.

          Out: Callan
          In: Williams

          They won't drop an experienced player in Welsh, won't happen (i would be very surprised if it did).

          This is of course if Williams comes in, otherwise Callan will hold his spot.
          I pretty much agree with that. I was basing my call on what I would do rather than Eade. Rocket doesn't drop senior players and I would be very surprised if he dropped Welsh ahead of Callan.

          Comment

          • The Coon Dog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7578

            #6
            Re: Who misses out?

            Callan for me.

            If Williams comes in then Morris, Hargrave & Gilbee all drop back one. Between those 3 they should do the sort of job Callan would have been expected to do.
            [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

            Comment

            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11115

              #7
              Re: Who misses out?

              Originally posted by The Coon Dog
              Callan for me.

              If Williams comes in then Morris, Hargrave & Gilbee all drop back one. Between those 3 they should do the sort of job Callan would have been expected to do.
              Good point.

              Although I think having both Callan and Williams in the side would be handy. They have a number of talls and smalls that play up forward but we'd be able to cover that and have several possible match-ups with both of our boys included.

              I don't see a position for Welsh. He's really struggled to impact big games and particularly finals. Why would that suddenly change this week? It's not as though he's in good form. Whilst his reading of the play is OK I think Williams would be the better selection, even if it means playing Williams up forward at times which I think we should try.
              W00F!

              Comment

              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Who misses out?

                Callan for me but unlucky though.

                Comment

                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13187

                  #9
                  Re: Who misses out?

                  I'll base it on last Friday's form. Thought Callan was very good on Friday night. Welsh out.
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

                  Comment

                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11132

                    #10
                    Re: Who misses out?

                    Presuming Williams comes into the team to counter the twin tower threat of Riewoldt and Kosi, who does Dale Morris then go to? He's kind of left out there like a shag on a rock without a decent match-up IMO. Apart from Riewoldt (who has torched him this season), there are no other hard-leading forwards for the Saints (basically the type of player that Morris is best suited to). It's either land of the giants (with Gardiner drifting forward on occasions) or the small forwards (Milne, Schneider) or the mid sized defensive forwards (McQualter, Eddy). I'm not suggesting for a second that Morris would or should be dropped this week, but unless he takes Riewoldt, I'm just not entirely sure how he should be best utilised in the team this week.

                    If Morris played for Collingwood and they were playing St Kilda this week, Malthouse might very well have dropped him purely for match-up purposes.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

                    Comment

                    • The Coon Dog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7578

                      #11
                      Re: Who misses out?

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Presuming Williams comes into the team to counter the twin tower threat of Riewoldt and Kosi, who does Dale Morris then go to? He's kind of left out there like a shag on a rock without a decent match-up IMO. Apart from Riewoldt (who has torched him this season), there are no other hard-leading forwards for the Saints (basically the type of player that Morris is best suited to). It's either land of the giants (with Gardiner drifting forward on occasions) or the small forwards (Milne, Schneider) or the mid sized defensive forwards (McQualter, Eddy). I'm not suggesting for a second that Morris would or should be dropped this week, but unless he takes Riewoldt, I'm just not entirely sure how he should be best utilised in the team this week.

                      If Morris played for Collingwood and they were playing St Kilda this week, Malthouse might very well have dropped him purely for match-up purposes.
                      Does Morris have the tank to run with Goddard, irrespective of where he plays?
                      [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

                      Comment

                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6924

                        #12
                        Re: Who misses out?

                        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                        Does Morris have the tank to run with Goddard, irrespective of where he plays?
                        I think that a key element of curbing/beating Goddard (Fisher and Gilbert for that matter) is the ability to hurt him on the scoreboard. It means that Goddard has to pay a bit more respect to his defensive duties. I would have liked Picken to have a crack at the forward defensive tag role, he obviously has the defensive qualities but he also knows his way around goal.

                        It's an area where I am especially worried about. I think that Goddard, Fisher and Gilbert can really exploit some of our forwards. I'm looking at you Mitch!

                        I think Morris will be right for options. He beat Roo last year and even if Williams plays, Tom could take the resting ruck/tag team with Morris on taller opponents. Schneider is the other option, Dale is great at totally shutting down decent small forwards without great ability/speed.

                        Comment

                        • Topdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7471

                          #13
                          Re: Who misses out?

                          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                          It's an area where I am especially worried about. I think that Goddard, Fisher and Gilbert can really exploit some of our forwards. I'm looking at you Mitch!
                          .
                          This is why I would drop Welsh. We simply can't afford to play him as a forward against the Saints and Geelong, which means he has to play as a defender and I'd rather Williams as a defender.

                          Comment

                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            #14
                            Re: Who misses out?

                            If he's fit, I'd have a hard look at Reid.

                            Comment

                            • boydogs
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5842

                              #15
                              Re: Who misses out?

                              Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                              Does Morris have the tank to run with Goddard, irrespective of where he plays?
                              I wouldn't have thought so. I think the Saints would be very happy to be able to draw Dale up the ground with this matchup

                              How about Gilbee forward? We brought in Callan for Hill last week to give ourselves that extra defender, having Gilbee's kicking up there could help in a low scoring defensive game, in bombing them through from 55 and nailing our opportunities with accurate goal kicking. He could also be a stopper against Goddard, Gilbert or Fisher

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              If he's fit, I'd have a hard look at Reid.
                              Who would you leave out?
                              Last edited by boydogs; 14-09-2009, 06:05 PM.
                              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                              Formerly gogriff

                              Comment

                              Working...