Good or Bad?

[lemmon]

Re: Good or Bad?

Hopefully this is a catalyst for next year and gives the players that extra motivation ala Geelong missing finals 06 winning the big one 07

[LostDoggy]

Re: Good or Bad?

My bitter two cents:
On the future:

The club needs to win something, anything. I would like them to aim to win the NAB preseason cup in 2010. We need to start having success wherever we can find it. Start there. Spare me the 'rather win the real flag' cant. Aim for success wherever its on offer. Build a club with an off-field presence like the Pies.

On last night:
We got beaten by Riewoldt and strange mistakes (inevitable in finals) at the worst time. No shame in it.

Over and out.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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The players made a video after last years prelim loss and they showed it to the group the other day. In that video the players expressed how disappointed they were to lose and how they felt. Last year they felt they should have won, and no doubt they feel they really let go a huge opportunity last night to make it to the GF. I think they are going to be even more determined now to succeed.

Whilst I agree in theory, we've been saying this every year since 1997 and I am yet to see the results of change. Each and every time a QF rolls around - we blow it. We do well enough the next week, and then go down in the PF. The group has courage and heart - we actually seem to play OK in PF's but unless you win one then it counts for nothing. That includes all the talking.

I won't be convinced this group has taken the next step until they actually do. Tired of hearing the same old talk after each season.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Good or Bad?

My bitter two cents:
On the future:

The club needs to win something, anything. I would like them to aim to win the NAB preseason cup in 2010. We need to start having success wherever we can find it. Start there. Spare me the 'rather win the real flag' cant. Aim for success wherever its on offer. Build a club with an off-field presence like the Pies.

On last night:
We got beaten by Riewoldt and strange mistakes (inevitable in finals) at the worst time. No shame in it.

Over and out.

Quite a few of those were by men with whistles.

[LostDoggy]

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Whilst I agree in theory, we've been saying this every year since 1997 and I am yet to see the results of change. Each and every time a QF rolls around - we blow it. We do well enough the next week, and then go down in the PF. The group has courage and heart - we actually seem to play OK in PF's but unless you win one then it counts for nothing. That includes all the talking.

I won't be convinced this group has taken the next step until they actually do. Tired of hearing the same old talk after each season.

You could always just stop watching AFL football.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Good or Bad?

You could always just stop watching AFL football.

And perhaps you could start.

[LostDoggy]

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I was at the game, next to the Cheersquad

[Missing-Dog]

Re: Good or Bad?

Shit happens...the stars didnt align for us...it sucks....could of, would of, should of, might of....didnt!
We improved as a team and in finals performance from 08 now we need to raise the bar again to improve on 09.
2010 may be our year. We have the team to do it. Lets hope they make it happen.

[LostDoggy]

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Shit happens...the stars didnt align for us...it sucks....could of, would of, should of, might of....didnt!
We improved as a team and in finals performance from 08 now we need to raise the bar again to improve on 09.
2010 may be our year. We have the team to do it. Lets hope they make it happen.

*sigh* I'm pretty sure that was the same thing we said back in 08

[Sedat]

Re: Good or Bad?

Bad. There are no guarantees in 2010. Geelong and St Kilda will be at or near the same level. Adelaide are on the improve. Hawthorn will be better for the early start to pre-season. We've got it all in front of us again.

[Bornadog]

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Whilst I agree in theory, we've been saying this every year since 1997 and I am yet to see the results of change. Each and every time a QF rolls around - we blow it. We do well enough the next week, and then go down in the PF. The group has courage and heart - we actually seem to play OK in PF's but unless you win one then it counts for nothing. That includes all the talking.

I won't be convinced this group has taken the next step until they actually do. Tired of hearing the same old talk after each season.

I didn't say they will succeed, I said they will be determined to take the next step.

[Happy Days]

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Bad - we lost a preliminary final we should have won, ffs, how is that possibly good at all?

[dog town]

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Hard to say really. Some teams handle it better than most. Geelong lost to Sydney by a point in 2005 after losing a preliminary final against Brisbane that they dominated in 2004. They were in a similar situation to us and had an awful year in 2006 before claiming their well deserved flag in 2007.

The only thing that is certain is teams get better at playing in big finals the more often they are involved in them.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Good or Bad?

Hard to say really. Some teams handle it better than most. Geelong lost to Sydney by a point in 2005 after losing a preliminary final against Brisbane that they dominated in 2004. They were in a similar situation to us and had an awful year in 2006 before claiming their well deserved flag in 2007.

The only thing that is certain is teams get better at playing in big finals the more often they are involved in them.

Sums it up perfectly. Rocket said after the 2006 loss to West Coast, that the teams that win the flag are around the mark for awhile. Examples, Sydney - how many preliminary finals did we watch before they won the flag? Geelong, even Port Adelaide and St Kilda. I am sure Rocket will be pressing that point with the players, and the fact that we made progress again this year. Two finals we could have won as opposed to being smashed in one final, and the other loosing by 26 points - pretty comfortable win in the end for Geelong last year.

1997 was different, Adelaide won their two premierships thanks to the draft picks the AFL handed them when they entered the competition.

[boydogs]

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Rocket said after the 2006 loss to West Coast, that the teams that win the flag are around the mark for awhile.

He said that last week as well I believe