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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    #61
    Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

    Originally posted by Furtanken
    An idea from left-field: how about, if an umpire is proven to make an absolutely horrible decision, they get rubbed out for a week or two with a fine?

    Just like the players.

    Did you see Shane McInerney out there on the weekend?

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #62
      Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

      Originally posted by aker39
      Did you see Shane McInerney out there on the weekend?

      Valid point.

      Will Stephen McBurney miss round 1?

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #63
        Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

        Originally posted by Furtanken
        An idea from left-field: how about, if an umpire is proven to make an absolutely horrible decision, they get rubbed out for a week or two with a fine?

        Just like the players.

        Also, anyone know what the average ump is on per year?
        I reckon we should pay them more, and pamper them less, if that makes sense.
        Go back to the 80's where you could abuse them openly, but make it worth their while.
        Another idea from left-field: how about, if an umpire is proven to make an absolutely horrible decision, they get bashed by every supporter at the ground who feels the steaming ***** have ripped them off?

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #64
          Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

          Originally posted by soupaman
          Which again shows it's a joke how inconsistent the positioning of the free is.

          When Fletcher did it, his team were penalised 50m. When Milburn did it, his team were penalised close to 100m. This isn't fair. It should either be a free kick where play is due to resume (ie.where the ball is) or a 50m penalty if the opposing team is already in posession of the footy. Anything more than that and its ridiculous, because it means defenders are given much higher penalties than forwards.

          If the umpire had of called it touched, and Riewoldt went off at him in the same manner as Milburn, it would have been a 50m penalty putting Geelong at CHB. So for the same crime, St.Kilda is gifted a goal while Geelong would have been given the kick out from CHB, approx 150m away from goal.
          Fletcher penalty - 50m
          Milburn penalty - free kick & 100m

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          • Topdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7471

            #65
            Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            I don't think there is any real defence that can be mounted here. It was overkill and he was not reported.
            The AFL has already said it was the correct decision.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #66
              Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

              The AFL was trying to make St Kilda win a premiership! At least the umpiring decisions over the last 2 weeks of the season make that seem like the case. I would hate to think that the AFL is somewhat staged or scripted, but at times you have to think the worst.

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11888

                #67
                Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

                Originally posted by Furtanken
                An idea from left-field: how about, if an umpire is proven to make an absolutely horrible decision, they get rubbed out for a week or two with a fine?

                Just like the players.

                Also, anyone know what the average ump is on per year?
                I reckon we should pay them more, and pamper them less, if that makes sense.
                Go back to the 80's where you could abuse them openly, but make it worth their while.
                I think it's different. Umpires making a bad decision is the equivalent to Johnno not passing to Aka in the goalsquare and taking a shot.

                He doesn't get fined but he might get a serve from Rocket
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #68
                  Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

                  Originally posted by Topdog
                  The AFL has already said it was the correct decision.
                  Yeah, well, they said that about Riewoldt's one last week too... Jeff Geishan said the decision was right, Gillon McLachlan also said Lee Harvey Oswald was working for the CIA, Demetriou said 9/11 was committed by the USA government and Adrian Anderson states that the moon landing was staged in a TV studio. They all might be right, but they are probably wrong. Simply saying something doesn't make it true.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #69
                    Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

                    It is different.
                    I just think, at present, they're not really accountable.
                    They get the green light regardless it seems.

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      #70
                      Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Yeah, well, they said that about Riewoldt's one last week too... Jeff Geishan said the decision was right, Gillon McLachlan also said Lee Harvey Oswald was working for the CIA, Demetriou said 9/11 was committed by the USA government and Adrian Anderson states that the moon landing was staged in a TV studio. They all might be right, but they are probably wrong. Simply saying something doesn't make it true.
                      Haha nicely done. I love how they do all their reviews on Monday but for those 2 incidents they were on TV the very next morning defending them. It is just so obvious what is going on.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #71
                        Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

                        Originally posted by Topdog
                        Haha nicely done. I love how they do all their reviews on Monday but for those 2 incidents they were on TV the very next morning defending them. It is just so obvious what is going on.
                        Thanks TD

                        If they were always going to lie, they should have at least played it cool. Waited until Monday and vomited their lies on a suspecting audience. Coming out early is the admission of guilt. On an aside, why is it all humans are fallible, make mistakes and learn and improve consequently, yet umpires are "more human" and never make mistakes. It would be refreshing to acknowledge all umpires past (me included) and present as people who make mistakes and learn and that's the game. It's so dynamic and with so many people moving sometimes not every single decision is correct. It just doesn't make sense. I used to freely admit if i stuffed up after the game over a beer, it was cold comfort but i felt like i owed it to them to be honest and i think i was fairly well respected for doing it. But having people stand over you telling the world your mistakes are not so doesn't do anythig for anyone.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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