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  • FrediKanoute
    Coaching Staff
    • Aug 2007
    • 3891

    #1

    Draft Talk....

    With Trade week winding down and the Doggies unlikely (though we have been linked) to make any more changes to the list I thought maybe it would be time to turn our attention to the draft. Yeah its still a month or so away, but it would be intersting to discuss what people think we need; what those in the know think we'll realisticaly get and who could possibly be around to fill these slots.

    From what I have read, from forums, journo's, posts her on Woof there seems to be a general feeling that the draft is not as deep as prior seasons. Which seems reasonable since there are less guys eligible than in prior years. With that in mind, I think we probably only really need 2 maybe 3 picks in the draft and that we'd probably be better off, salary cap permitting of course, re-signing Aka and Eagle, since they are likely to give us more than a 4+ round pick would (unless we uncover a colossal gem).

    In terms of what we select, I know that on tht other forum a lot of the Phantom Drafts which are posted seem to suggest that the doggies will again chase tall timber. I personally don't think so. I think we have a pretty solid pipeline of talls in Grant, Cordy, Roughie, Jones, Bouman, Williams, Everitt and Tiller (to a lesser extent). Why would we stock up on more developing talls.

    That said, I don't necessarily think that we will solely go for midfield players either, but if we do I think we'll go looking for quick pacy mid-fielders capable of running the lines. Its no secret that Ray's departure left the succesion planning of Eagle's retirement with a short term gap. If possible we'd also look for a pacy small forward, with crumbing and goal kicking ability.

    In short I really think that this draft is a draft where we will try to get a couple of specific player types, but again we will not overlook a bargain and if a top 10 slides I think we'll go the best available option and choose them. To me we have a couple of areas on the list which need attention, but they are not critical deficiencies.
  • Pedro Sanchez
    Rookie List
    • Jan 2008
    • 379

    #2
    Re: Draft Talk....

    I would like to see an out and out rover - someone in the Royal or Platten mode that can just sniff the pill and work well in traffic at the foot of our ruckmen. Would be also nice if they know how to convert too. Especially considering that Cross and Boyd wont go forever and surely their inside style of play will have a greater impact on their bodies as opposed to the outty players such as Eagleton and co.

    So for me its the smaller, naturally gifted and goal-orientated players that we should draft.

    Thoughts...

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18103

      #3
      Re: Draft Talk....

      Originally posted by Pedro Sanchez
      I would like to see an out and out rover - someone in the Royal or Platten mode that can just sniff the pill and work well in traffic at the foot of our ruckmen. Would be also nice if they know how to convert too. Especially considering that Cross and Boyd wont go forever and surely their inside style of play will have a greater impact on their bodies as opposed to the outty players such as Eagleton and co.

      So for me its the smaller, naturally gifted and goal-orientated players that we should draft.

      Thoughts...
      You basically described Tom Liberatore to a tee.

      Regarding this year's draft, I hope we secure a line breaking mid and the best available forward (tall or small) with our first two picks, and use our third and fourth on either a ruckman or a mature defender.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67687

        #4
        Re: Draft Talk....

        Originally posted by comrade
        You basically described Tom Liberatore to a tee.

        Regarding this year's draft, I hope we secure a line breaking mid and the best available forward (tall or small) with our first two picks, and use our third and fourth on either a ruckman or a mature defender.
        Comrade, what sort of mature defender, would you think we need, ie a half back flanker, say around 185 to 190cm or a tall that can cover for either Lake or Williams if they are injured?
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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18103

          #5
          Re: Draft Talk....

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Comrade, what sort of mature defender, would you think we need, ie a half back flanker, say around 185 to 190cm or a tall that can cover for either Lake or Williams if they are injured?
          Definitely a tall - at this stage I'm not counting on Williams to stay fit and Boumann is a couple of years away from holding down a key position. If we could pick up a bigger body that can cover the tall forwards and allow Morris the luxary of dominating in his weight division, I'd be delighted.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67687

            #6
            Re: Draft Talk....

            Originally posted by comrade
            Definitely a tall - at this stage I'm not counting on Williams to stay fit and Boumann is a couple of years away from holding down a key position. If we could pick up a bigger body that can cover the tall forwards and allow Morris the luxary of dominating in his weight division, I'd be delighted.
            We have to aslo expect that Lake may get injured at some time, so need to cover that as well.

            I would love to pick up Jetta, or a similar player, although we thought Lynch was that type of player. I think we need a fast outside runner to replace an Eagleton. Cross, Boyd, Ward are all similar. Cooney and Griffen play a different type of roll.

            Overall, we have to think about the longer term with this draft and find replacements for ageing players.
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            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • KT31
              WOOF Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 5455

              #7
              Re: Draft Talk....

              Originally posted by comrade
              Definitely a tall - at this stage I'm not counting on Williams to stay fit and Boumann is a couple of years away from holding down a key position. If we could pick up a bigger body that can cover the tall forwards and allow Morris the luxary of dominating in his weight division, I'd be delighted.
              I agere totally Comrade.
              Another tall backman woul be a real assett.
              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7472

                #8
                Re: Draft Talk....

                Originally posted by bornadog
                I would love to pick up Jetta, or a similar player, although we thought Lynch was that type of player. I think we need a fast outside runner to replace an Eagleton. Cross, Boyd, Ward are all similar. Cooney and Griffen play a different type of roll.
                Jetta has already proven more at state senior level than Lynch has...and it isn't even close.
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • Sedat
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 11601

                  #9
                  Re: Draft Talk....

                  mjp, would be very keen to hear your thoughts on some diamonds in the rough currently plying their trade in the WAFL that we could pick up late in the ND/rookie draft who have the capability to adequately address our current list deficiencies.
                  "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                  • Missing Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8501

                    #10
                    Re: Draft Talk....

                    Jetta ticks a lot of boxes for us, firstly he is a ball carrying midfielder who provides speed. Secondly he has the ability to come in and have an impact straight away, I understand that he is still very light and he hasn't specifically played the forward pocket role before but I think we all acknowledge it would be a role he could easily adapt to with his attributes.

                    Similarly to Rioli he has the potential to come in and fill a void in our list for the moment as a forward and in the long term we would plan to develop him into a midfielder.

                    All this will depend on whether Dalrymple believes there are any quality talls still floating around and whether Jetta lasts to our pick.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Draft Talk....

                      We need to pick up Sean Tighe damnit!

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #12
                        Re: Draft Talk....

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Definitely a tall - at this stage I'm not counting on Williams to stay fit and Boumann is a couple of years away from holding down a key position. If we could pick up a bigger body that can cover the tall forwards and allow Morris the luxary of dominating in his weight division, I'd be delighted.
                        Yep, agree 100%.

                        I posted something similar in another thread, we definitely need to address the issue of another key tall defender. Nobody knows exactly how Williams body is going to hold up, and at this stage we don't have any backup in the position.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: Draft Talk....

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          You basically described Tom Liberatore to a tee. Regarding this year's draft, I hope we secure a line breaking mid and the best available forward (tall or small) with our first two picks, and use our third and fourth on either a ruckman or a mature defender.
                          Comrade, how far away is Liberatore, and for that matter, Wallis? Will they come up for father/son next year?

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18103

                            #14
                            Re: Draft Talk....

                            Originally posted by Magic Griffen
                            Comrade, how far away is Liberatore, and for that matter, Wallis? Will they come up for father/son next year?
                            Unless something dramatically changes, both of them will be Bulldogs as of the end of November next year.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7579

                              #15
                              Re: Draft Talk....

                              Originally posted by comrade
                              Unless something dramatically changes, both of them will be Bulldogs as of the end of November next year.
                              Early October next year, F/S bidding occurs immediately prior to trade week.
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