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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14748

    #31
    Re: Draft Talk....

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    We'll need to be clever in our list management over the next 4 years. To ensure we're still playing finals, we need to find replacements for the likes of Hahn/Gia/Murphy/Gilbee/Hargrave. It's been a while since we've drafted players who primarily play off a HFF or a HBF. I suspect that may change in this years draft.
    Will Brad Sheppard be an option?

    Can anyone who has seen him play tell me a bit more about him.
    The curse is dead.

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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10252

      #32
      Re: Draft Talk....

      Originally posted by chef
      Will Brad Sheppard be an option?

      Can anyone who has seen him play tell me a bit more about him.
      I have only seen a bit of footage, so probably others can tell you more but - he looks a good player to me and I'm not convinced he'll survive to our selection.

      He can stand up in the tackle, his hands are good and so is his vision in close. Not bad overhead and reads the flight of the ball well. His kicking at full tilt could use a bit of work and tends to be a bit up and under at times. Good around the clearance (although can lack a bit of composure at times), good enough speed, and good deft kicking skills off a couple of steps.

      Yeah, I'm a fan.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • Jasper
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2009
        • 1331

        #33
        Re: Draft Talk....

        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
        A CHB is crucial and considering GC/WS will be taking all the quality for the next few years we'll be hard pressed to find another opportunity to draft one in. If a player like Talia is available (I've only read reviews admittedly) then we'd need to take him. Lake won't be around forever, Williams can't string together more than five games and Boumann is raw.
        How many tall players are too many.??
        Tall Backs
        Jones
        Boumann
        Williams

        Tall Forwards/Rucks
        Cordy
        Roughead
        Grant
        Everitt

        Honestly think we are well stocked with developing talls. Don't think we should draft another. Also would prefer to be drafting shorter term, to ensure we can replace Aker and Eagle. We are overstocked with slower bigger bodied mids and have no really fast skillful players in the pipeline, unless you count Lynch (I don't)

        Strongly believe we need get fast mids or small forwards in this draft. A quarterback to replace Gilbee would be handy as well. Don't think we should draft any talls unless a gun slips
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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11962

          #34
          Re: Draft Talk....

          Originally posted by Kelvinator
          How many tall players are too many.??
          Tall Backs

          Boumann
          Williams
          Jones

          Tall Forwards/Rucks
          Cordy
          Roughead
          Grant
          Everitt
          One more won't hurt in defence. Especially considering Jones sounds like a CHF. We don't want to end up without any key backs

          EDIT: Also looks thinner when you consider Roughead as a ruckman is in a different category and Everitt may not be a KPP.
          Last edited by hujsh; 16-10-2009, 03:15 PM.
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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11409

            #35
            Re: Draft Talk....

            Originally posted by Kelvinator
            Tall Backs
            Jones - Recruited and playing as a forward currently. Early signs look OK.
            Boumann - Playing back and is improving. Still no certainty/some way off senior footy.
            Williams - Injury prone and hasn't shown a lot form wise. I wouldn't have him in future plans - needs to string games and form together first.

            Tall Forwards/Rucks
            Cordy - Yep, long way off though. He was always going to take 3-4 years before he could play.
            Roughead - Should get a few games next year. He's a young ruck, not really a KPF.
            Grant - Seems to have a few doubters, but I think he has plenty of talent.
            Everitt - Not a KPP.
            Little bit of an analysis above.

            We haven't got anyone that is a certainty to make it at this stage. Some look pretty good, some are injury prone and others haven't fired a shot yet. They all still have plenty of time but we are by no means in the 'safe zone' for key stocks yet. Roughead would be my pick of the bunch so far. I think we're 1 more CHB short which is where Talia might be high on our list. If Butcher drops, we'd look at him too.

            I certainly agree that we need to replace some of our half backs and half forwards. We're getting two pretty good midfield prospects next year (Wallis/Libba) so I don't think we should be making it our number one priority. Traditionally, midfielders are dime a dozen and you can pick up quality in every draft. We should be able to find one with our second pick.

            It all depends who's available in the end. If there's an OK tall vs. a gun midfielder, we would (and should) take the latter. If ithere's not much between them, take the tall.
            W00F!

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            • Hotdog60
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2009
              • 6018

              #36
              Re: Draft Talk....

              Draft Preview with Simon Dalrymple


              With Trade Week done and dusted, Western Bulldogs Recruiting and Football Partnerships Manager Simon Dalrymple has taken time out to discuss the upcoming NAB AFL Draft on November 26 with our supporters.

              Simon thanks for your time, looking back on last week, apart from the acquisition of Barry Hall, it was a pretty quiet week for the Club at the trade table.

              We are thrilled to get Barry Hall and thankfully that was achieved early in the week. There was a bit of interest in Andrejs Everitt but we held strong to our belief that he has considerable improvement in him. The Club made it very clear that Andrejs was a required player and we are very happy that he will be with the Club next year.

              There has been a lot of talk around that it will be a very shallow draft this year, what are your thoughts on this?

              It is hard for me to compare previous drafts because this will be my first one. But looking at the numbers in the talent pool it’s probably a fair assumption, taking into account the number of quality players taken last year as 17 year olds. Players of the calibre of Jack Watts, Sam Blease, Liam Shiels, Jack Ziebel were all drafted last year as underage players and would have all added significant depth to the 2009 Draft. So with all these things considered I agree with the assessment of this year’s pool.

              Full Story

              Looks like we'll grab John Butcher if he goes that low. Also interesting how he mentions the 4 year cycle to see if a player has what it takes, Unless you upset someone like GO'K did.
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              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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              • Nuggety Back Pocket
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 2064

                #37
                Re: Draft Talk....

                Originally posted by hujsh
                Maybe we should look at getting a mature KP defender on the rookie list who could fill a role if/when Williams is injured.
                I thought that Boumann when tried as a key defender with Williamstown looks the most likely should anything happen to Lake, (God forbid) or Williams.

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11962

                  #38
                  Re: Draft Talk....

                  Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                  I thought that Boumann when tried as a key defender with Williamstown looks the most likely should anything happen to Lake, (God forbid) or Williams.
                  Whether he'd be ready or not may be an issue. It'd be nice to be able to cover Williams being injured either way.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #39
                    Re: Draft Talk....

                    I just visited BF for the first time 3 years to find fantasy draft crap to start a conversation. Many uneducated posters, but some seeming good watchers, put forward some fantasy drafts.

                    Most had pick 15 being used on Melksham from Calder, BOG in the GF. A mid. Some had Talia and Griffiths, i know nothing of Griffiths and suspect Talia will go higher than 15. Thoughts?

                    With pick 32, it was split between Sam Reid and Crichton. I know nothing. Thoughts?

                    No-one seemed to touch Temel, Thompson (Bomber's nephew) or Majak Daw. Would we be interested in any as a rookie. Temel seems a little like Sedat Sir, but at the other end. Majak could be good for numerous reasons, not least of which he has some raw talent. I love Thompson's kicking for goal. Better than 80% for the season, should be worthy of a good look???


                    (p.s. - I know all of things are shit and written by 12 year olds, no need to tell me. It's just a conversation starter)
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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18103

                      #40
                      Re: Draft Talk....

                      Chrichton at 31 would be a super result IMO. He had a quietish carnival, but is quick, makes good decisions and has an appetite for tackling. He's skinny, but I think he could handle playing at the highest level pretty much straight away (similar to Hill at Freo).

                      I'm not sold on Melksham - there's something 'Sam Power-ish' about him.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #41
                        Re: Draft Talk....

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Chrichton at 31 would be a super result IMO. He had a quietish carnival, but is quick, makes good decisions and has an appetite for tackling. He's skinny, but I think he could handle playing at the highest level pretty much straight away (similar to Hill at Freo).

                        I'm not sold on Melksham - there's something 'Sam Power-ish' about him.
                        If Talia and Butcher are gone as expected. Who doesn't look either 'Sam Power-ish' or 'Tim Walsh-ish'?


                        Moore or Stevens?
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Sockeye Salmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6365

                          #42
                          Re: Draft Talk....

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Chrichton at 31 would be a super result IMO. He had a quietish carnival, but is quick, makes good decisions and has an appetite for tackling. He's skinny, but I think he could handle playing at the highest level pretty much straight away (similar to Hill at Freo).

                          I'm not sold on Melksham - there's something 'Sam Power-ish' about him.
                          Clayton loved Melksham. I think he would have been a big chance if Clayton was still there.

                          I'd like to see Mike's boy, Black, in the Tri-colour.

                          The Sam Power clone is Brad Shephard of East Fremantle.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #43
                            Re: Draft Talk....

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            Clayton loved Melksham. I think he would have been a big chance if Clayton was still there.

                            I'd like to see Mike's boy, Black, in the Tri-colour.

                            The Sam Power clone is Brad Shephard of East Fremantle.
                            What's the charm of Black SS?
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45567

                              #44
                              Re: Draft Talk....

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              I just visited BF for the first time 3 years to find fantasy draft crap to start a conversation. Many uneducated posters, but some seeming good watchers, put forward some fantasy drafts.

                              Most had pick 15 being used on Melksham from Calder, BOG in the GF. A mid. Some had Talia and Griffiths, i know nothing of Griffiths and suspect Talia will go higher than 15. Thoughts?

                              With pick 32, it was split between Sam Reid and Crichton. I know nothing. Thoughts?

                              No-one seemed to touch Temel, Thompson (Bomber's nephew) or Majak Daw. Would we be interested in any as a rookie. Temel seems a little like Sedat Sir, but at the other end. Majak could be good for numerous reasons, not least of which he has some raw talent. I love Thompson's kicking for goal. Better than 80% for the season, should be worthy of a good look???


                              (p.s. - I know all of things are shit and written by 12 year olds, no need to tell me. It's just a conversation starter)
                              They are of course guesses.

                              Melksham is a nice midfielder who will settle in as a winger. He had an average U18 carnival but a great finals series. The U18 form was a concern because he didn't respond well to the lift in standards.

                              Griffiths is a big mobile CHF with a thumping kick but I've never really been impressed the times I have seen him play. I think he's more of a 2nd round pick.

                              Talia's been mentioned on here heaps but could be around when we have our first pick.

                              Temel is a late order pick. He's not quick off the mark but he was very good in the finals.
                              He's supposed to be 194cm but I think he might be 192cm.

                              Daw is latish pick as well but might go before our 4th round pick.
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                              • Sockeye Salmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6365

                                #45
                                Re: Draft Talk....

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                What's the charm of Black SS?
                                Mike's brainwashed me by telling me over and over how good this kid is.

                                195cm athletic forward who played 1 or 2 games in the backline and a few in the ruck.

                                Played the last 3 games in the Peel seniors on a wing. The maximum number of B & F votes Peel give for any one player in one game is 18. In the last two rounds Black got 35 votes.

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