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  • divvydan
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1502

    #46
    Re: Free Agency

    Some of the main points of the free agency to come in for 2012.

    • Players delisted by a club on or before 31 October will be unrestricted free agents.

    • If a player has completed 8 seasons at a club on the primary list and is NOT in the top 25% of salaries (at that club), they are eligible for unrestricted free agency when their contract expires. Their current club does NOT have the option to match an offer

    • If a player has completed 8 or more seasons at a club on the primary list and are in the top 25% of salaries (at that club), they are eligible for RESTRICTED free agency when their contract expires. Their current club has the opportunity to match the preferred option that the player chooses. If the offer is matched, the player then has the opportunity to stay with the current club, seek a trade or enter the draft.

    • If a player has served 10 or more seasons on the primary list at one club and has already come out of contract once before after 8 or more seasons, then the next time their contract ends, they will be eligible for unrestricted free agency. The player can choose their preferred option and their current club does NOT have the right to match that offer.

    • All offers from clubs can only include capped salary and capped Additional Services Agreement (ASA) amount.

    • Compensation in the form of draft pick(s) will apply to clubs with a NET loss of free agents in a transfer period.

    • The veterans list will be amended to apply to players with 10years service at a club (no mention of age) and will be a set amount of TPP per player calculated as a % of TPP. This differs from the currently policy of 50% of a player’s salary for up to 2 players (1/n for more than 2 players, where n= number of veterans)

    Obviously the critical thing will be enforcing the independent third party deals that certain clubs (you know who) like to use.

    In reality, there are probably few occasions where a player will have played 8 seasons with a club and not be in the top 25% of salaries at that club, unless a high percentage of players were recruited over a one/two year period.

    This may mean that clubs will try and get players on longer term contracts after they’ve been at a club for 6-7 years and conversely, player managers will be doing everything to ensure a player comes out of contract after 8 years and again after 10 years.

    The compensation aspect is interesting, not only to work out what the formula is but also that it’s based on a net loss of free agents. Thus if a team were to lose a great player and pick up an average player they wouldn’t get compensated as they’ve lost one player and gained one player.

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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #47
      Re: Free Agency

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Not a fan here.

      Neither am I

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14633

        #48
        Re: Free Agency

        Thanks divvydan, so many variables.
        The curse is dead.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #49
          Re: Free Agency

          Originally posted by divvydan
          • If a player has completed 8 or more seasons at a club on the primary list and are in the top 25% of salaries (at that club), they are eligible for RESTRICTED free agency when their contract expires. Their current club has the opportunity to match the preferred option that the player chooses. If the offer is matched, the player then has the opportunity to stay with the current club, seek a trade or enter the draft.
          I don't understand this clause, especially the bolded part. Does this mean that the player still gets to choose if he is traded despite his club matching the offer? How is this any different to unrestricted free agency, then?

          It's just giving the original club a chance to match the offer, right? No matter what they're calling it, it's ALL Unrestricted Free Agency, it's just that the 'not in the top 25%' clause is even more diabolical as a players' original club doesn't even get to be in the bidding war!

          Just bull$hit clauses attempting to pull the wool over the eyes of the masses.

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          • Missing Dog
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8501

            #50
            Re: Free Agency

            Originally posted by Lantern
            I don't understand this clause, especially the bolded part. Does this mean that the player still gets to choose if he is traded despite his club matching the offer? How is this any different to unrestricted free agency, then?
            It's restricted because if the club matches the offer, and the player still wants to go, he can only go to another club via a trade (where the original club would be compensated with a new player, just as it is now) or the player takes the risk and goes in to the draft.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #51
              Re: Free Agency

              Originally posted by aker39
              It's restricted because if the club matches the offer, and the player still wants to go, he can only go to another club via a trade (where the original club would be compensated with a new player, just as it is now) or the player takes the risk and goes in to the draft.
              Ah of course. Wasn't really thinking clearly. Thanks aker39!

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              • anfo27
                WOOF Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2002

                #52
                Re: Free Agency

                Originally posted by Lantern
                I don't understand this clause, especially the bolded part. Does this mean that the player still gets to choose if he is traded despite his club matching the offer? How is this any different to unrestricted free agency, then?

                It's just giving the original club a chance to match the offer, right? No matter what they're calling it, it's ALL Unrestricted Free Agency, it's just that the 'not in the top 25%' clause is even more diabolical as a players' original club doesn't even get to be in the bidding war!

                Just bull$hit clauses attempting to pull the wool over the eyes of the masses.
                I'm with you Lantern it doesn't quite make sense to me.

                I think its easier if a player comes out of contract & the club still wants him then the club can offer him arbitration. Then the player has the choice to take the contact offered by his exsisting club or go else where & if he does go else where no matter what his original club gets compensated.

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                • angelopetraglia
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6853

                  #53
                  Re: Free Agency

                  A new world of trades begin.

                  There will be so many new variables into play. I'm sure it will take a while for eveyone to see excatly how the landscape will change.

                  The key is the "under the carpert / third party" payments that if not enforced very strongly will see the superstar players all at those clubs with the most resources.

                  This is what worries me the most.

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                  • Hotdog60
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5916

                    #54
                    Re: Free Agency

                    Are we going to end up back were the rich clubs snare all the players. 8 years at a club if recruited when 18 years old will be in their prime at this time. All the work put into player development can be reaped by another club with more money.

                    Collingwood
                    Carlton
                    Essendon


                    Days of old here we come.
                    Don't piss off old people
                    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                    • divvydan
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1502

                      #55
                      Re: Free Agency

                      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                      A new world of trades begin.

                      There will be so many new variables into play. I'm sure it will take a while for eveyone to see excatly how the landscape will change.

                      The key is the "under the carpert / third party" payments that if not enforced very strongly will see the superstar players all at those clubs with the most resources.

                      This is what worries me the most.
                      That's certainly a concern I share and added to that is the greater profile and post career opportunity that going to some clubs provide, particularly if/when someone from the management/board is also an influential media personality.

                      The other issue is that clubs with lower profiles or abilities to enable players to earn outside football will have to pay relatively more to entice potential free agents from other clubs and the possible snowball effect that might have on the playing list with less money to go to upcoming players, which in turn increases the chance that they'll leave.

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6932

                        #56
                        Re: Free Agency

                        Originally posted by Hotdog60
                        Are we going to end up back were the rich clubs snare all the players. 8 years at a club if recruited when 18 years old will be in their prime at this time. All the work put into player development can be reaped by another club with more money.

                        Collingwood
                        Carlton
                        Essendon


                        Days of old here we come.
                        More like

                        West Coast
                        Adelaide
                        Collingwood

                        Essendon and Carlton can fight it off to be the best of the rest.

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          #57
                          Re: Free Agency

                          Now the AFL have gone down this track it surely has to make the draw each year more equal. As an example as it is now Collingwood could offer a player from another Club regular games on the MCG, Anzac Day game against Essendon every year etc etc. What do others think?

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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14633

                            #58
                            Re: Free Agency

                            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                            More like

                            West Coast
                            Adelaide
                            Collingwood

                            Essendon and Carlton can fight it off to be the best of the rest.
                            There will be a lot more players going back to their home states. Do you think this is going to affect the interstate clubs more than the Vics?
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #59
                              Re: Free Agency

                              As inevitable as this was, today is one of the darkest days in football's history.

                              My son was born in 2003. At the time I seriously questioned whether I would enourage him to follow the Bulldogs; I didn't want him to get to 12 and have his football team taken away from him.

                              If I was to have another child now, I would encourage them to barrack for Essendon because we our days are surely numbered.

                              All that good work by David Smorgon, Campbell Rose and the rest will soon be wasted and we'll be back where we started - fighting for survival until it becomes impossible and we die.


                              'Arna Cheats!!!

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                              • boydogs
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5844

                                #60
                                Re: Free Agency

                                Originally posted by chef
                                There will be a lot more players going back to their home states. Do you think this is going to affect the interstate clubs more than the Vics?
                                Maybe Brisbane and Sydney, but they have bigger salary caps don't they?
                                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                                Formerly gogriff

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