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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11271

    #91
    Re: Jarrad Grant

    Originally posted by frank
    I agree TBB. Grant reminds me a bit of murphy in some ways . Do you think he can play the season out?
    Nah, he won't be able to play the season out and I'd expect a down period sooner or later. He's still a year or two off having the strength to consistently match it at AFL level, but the signs are very good. He's contributed across the entirity of both games, rather than just a few short spells here and there.

    It'll be interesting to see how we handle him when he does have a quiet/average game. Will they drop him straight away or give him a week or so to bounce back?
    W00F!

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11281

      #92
      Re: Jarrad Grant

      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
      Always agree with your views, Doctor.

      Gia seems to regularly make ridiculous, costly decisions in match changing moments. That miss v Melbourne in '05 was another example.
      Could really argue the same for Johnno, who has twice missed gettable shots for goal after the siren to win us matches. It wasn't even the miss against the Cats but moreso the fact that he panicked and tried to play on despite the time clock being 32 minutes.

      In fairnss to Gia, he did spot up Johnno beautifully with great vision in that after-the-siren loss to North when other players would have blazed away without looking. That was one of the best short kicks under pressure I've seen, and his vision to even spot him up was outstanding.

      What I like about Grant is that he is quick and defensively oriented, two qualities that are in short supply in our forward line at the moment. He is going to be a very difficult player for opposition to match up on once he develops the tank to go with his natural gifts.
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #93
        Re: Jarrad Grant

        He must be working really hard on his game, every one said that he puts in no effort so its good to see him actually trying to improve himself. I hope we persist in him for a while even if he has a bad game so we can build his confidence.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14989

          #94
          Re: Jarrad Grant

          Originally posted by Sedat
          In fairnss to Gia, he did spot up Johnno beautifully with great vision in that after-the-siren loss to North when other players would have blazed away without looking. That was one of the best short kicks under pressure I've seen, and his vision to even spot him up was outstanding.
          Possibly the best kick under pressure I have ever seen was Gia a couple of weeks back, surrounded by 3 Hawks. He held the ball up to allow Hall a chance to double back then get a step on his opponent, then delivered it lace-out whilst dancing and weaving around his opponents.
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          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344

            #95
            Re: Jarrad Grant

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            Gia consistently fails to deliver in big moments in big games. He's not on his lonesone either. however for someone who is talked up by the club as a leader he often shirks the on field responsibility.

            He seems to be more of a do as I say leader than a do as I do leader.
            Totally agree. Its easier to pass off the ball then it is to take responsibility and kick the vital goal.

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            • EasternWest
              Hall of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 10002

              #96
              Re: Jarrad Grant

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              Always agree with your views, Doctor.

              Gia seems to regularly make ridiculous, costly decisions in match changing moments. That miss v Melbourne in '05 was another example.
              Not that I disagree entirely, but that in traffic weave and left foot snap in the PF last year was a high pressure moment of magic.
              "It's over. It's all over."

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15337

                #97
                Re: Jarrad Grant

                Originally posted by dfa4pm
                Not that I disagree entirely, but that in traffic weave and left foot snap in the PF last year was a high pressure moment of magic.
                But then later on didn't he miss an easier one?
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • Before I Die
                  Senior Player
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1032

                  #98
                  Re: Jarrad Grant

                  Ok, I am confused. I thought I clicked on the "Jarrad Grant" thread, but clearly this is the "Let's make Gia a scapegoat" thread. Sorry I mean, the "I hate to say it, but it's Gia's fault" thread. I get it that some posters have a very strong historical investment in the 'Gia is soft' myth, and are terrified of the idea that he may become our next captain. But is it really necessary to hijack completely unrelated threads?
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                  • Dazza
                    WOOF Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 548

                    #99
                    Re: Jarrad Grant

                    Grant has been impressive. His pace has been the standout for me. Once he develops more core strength he'll be very hard to stop. So far he's probably been putting more pressure on the opposition than any of our other forwards. I'm not sure if they are his coaching instructions or not but he's doing very well in that regard.

                    One concern I have is his goalkicking. Seems to lack penetration.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Jarrad Grant

                      Originally posted by Doggies FTW
                      He must be working really hard on his game, every one said that he puts in no effort so its good to see him actually trying to improve himself. I hope we persist in him for a while even if he has a bad game so we can build his confidence.
                      I'm with you here.

                      After reading all the comments about GRant I thought I was watching the wrong player in the past couple of weeks because he has been terrific. His attack on the ball and opponent has been first class and he looks good whenever he goes near the ball.

                      He really does look the goods with a big future.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Jarrad Grant

                        With his goal kicking is it a technique issue that can be fixed with some good coaching? It just looks like he cant make the distance and he has to concentrate more on distance then accuracy but hopefully distance will come to him when he gets a bit stronger.

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3837

                          Re: Jarrad Grant

                          Originally posted by arkie
                          He really needs to work on his kicking. He missed a very gettable shot which could have iced the game with not much distance and angle. Earlier, Roughead kicked a more difficult goal from about 45m. How can a player like Jarrad Grant get a better kicking action?

                          I think he should probably be dropped for the Melbourne game. I don't think he did enough. Sure he took a few marks but did make some crucial errors. He also needs to get a lot bigger. It seems any player can easily just shrug him off. After being at the club for a while now I would've thought he'd be bigger than what he currently is.
                          Can't agree. Get games into him and he will only get better. Dropping the kid after a loss where he could have iced the game will do wonders for shattering his confidence. He did enough to hold his spot and for mine deserves to play against the Demons. His tackling is good. He presented more this week than last week and he gets involved.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66871

                            Re: Jarrad Grant

                            Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                            Can't agree. Get games into him and he will only get better. Dropping the kid after a loss where he could have iced the game will do wonders for shattering his confidence. He did enough to hold his spot and for mine deserves to play against the Demons. His tackling is good. He presented more this week than last week and he gets involved.
                            I thought he played well and has started to show something. He had nine marks, five tackles and 17 disposals. Yes he made some errors and should have kicked a goal in the last, but for his 3rd game only, we need to develop him more. Melbourne is the ideal team to play against.
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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14636

                              Re: Jarrad Grant

                              Originally posted by Doggies FTW
                              With his goal kicking is it a technique issue that can be fixed with some good coaching? It just looks like he cant make the distance and he has to concentrate more on distance then accuracy but hopefully distance will come to him when he gets a bit stronger.
                              He should get more distance with his kicks once he gets some more strength into his legs. He is going to be a very good player when he fills out.
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                              • alwaysadog
                                Senior Player
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1436

                                Re: Jarrad Grant

                                Originally posted by way out west
                                I Agree, At present Grant is ahead of Hill and to say otherwise is stupid. The facts are that Grant is in the seniors and Hill is not. I also think on what i have seen so far that Grant's hands are also better
                                Depends what we are talking about vis a vis hands. If we are talking speed in the dishing off hand passes that's one thing in terms of general sure handedness then Hill comes back into the equation.
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