Harbrow to the GC?.

[Sedat]

Re: Harbrow to the GC?

Will we? How do you know that for sure?

Good question. We don't know for certain what the compensation will be (dumb and dumber don't know either). But it will be plenty more than a rookie selection.

[LostDoggy]

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Good question. We don't know for certain what the compensation will be (dumb and dumber don't know either). But it will be plenty more than a rookie selection.

But how can we have a transfer system in place already without having the compensation component finalised? It's like someone signing to sell off your house without knowing what you're going to get for it, or even how it's going to be valued, but we're supposed to believe that it will be 'fine' (although all prior experience tells us that the guys selling your house are completely incompetent and more interested in shafting you than helping).

And if Gablett may be a pick 26, we'd be lucky to get a rookie pick for Jarrod.

[Doc26]

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And if Gablett may be a pick 26, we'd be lucky to get a rookie pick for Jarrod.

And when the rookie is worth anything will be off under free agency or some other form of compensation anyway ala Jarrod

[Sedat]

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But how can we have a transfer system in place already without having the compensation component finalised? It's like someone signing to sell off your house without knowing what you're going to get for it, or even how it's going to be valued, but we're supposed to believe that it will be 'fine' (although all prior experience tells us that the guys selling your house are completely incompetent and more interested in shafting you than helping).

And if Gablett may be a pick 26, we'd be lucky to get a rookie pick for Jarrod.

I'm actually in agreement with you and Doc26 and Bulldog4Life. Only used Harbrow as an example whereby he cost us a rookie pick and is now a borderline AA hence would be worth a decent draft pick (that is in theory of course, because as you rightly pointed out we haven't got a clue what the brains trust at AFL H/Q have instore for clubs re: compensation).

I'd be very surprised if Gablett was allowed to go to GC for a return outlay to Geelong of pick 26. There would be outcry from the rest of the competition if something so ludicrously advantageous to GC was rubber-stamped by the AFL. But yeah, there are a million unanswered questions all round in relation to free agency.

[LostDoggy]

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Exactly, Sedat. We're all in furious agreement, and the anger is all directed at the brainstrust at AFL HQ.

I think your 'dumb and dumber' label is a winner.

[divvydan]

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The 'Ablett for pick 26' was really just a worst case scenario used to create a headline and get people reading and talking about the article as a whole. There are a number of categories of compensation (first round, end of first round, second round, end of second, third round pick etc) and clubs will have up to 5 years to use them.

As for not knowing what a player like Harbrow will get, that's true for us supporters, however, there were around 50-60 players used as examples for compensation when it was being worked out so the afl will have a very good idea what sort of compensation to expect from clubs losing a player. The clubs themselves won't know the exact weighting but I'm sure they also have can make a strong estimate of what any individual player is worth in compensation terms.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Harbrow to the GC?.

Rather than start a completely new thread, thought I would bring back this one.

After Friday night's performance, do we need to do whatever it takes to keep Harbrow?
Or do we need to find a plan B if the offer is just too good?

I'm interested in everyone else's thoughts, and I guess I better post my own here too.

I reckon we need to look at keeping him. He just seems to get better and better, yes he still makes mistakes, but that is part of the learning process. If we had to start from scratch, we would see more mistakes made by a new rookie. You would think that Johnno, Aker and Eage would all retire, we would probably need to make some hard calls on other players just to come close to matching GC. But I would like to see us try to keep him.

[Bulldog4life]

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According to Media reports....how reliable I'm not sure.....This year Harbrow is on less than $200,000 a year with us and that the Gold Coast have offered him between $450,000 to $500,000 a year.

[chef]

Re: Harbrow to the GC?.

Rather than start a completely new thread, thought I would bring back this one.

After Friday night's performance, do we need to do whatever it takes to keep Harbrow?
Or do we need to find a plan B if the offer is just too good?

I'm interested in everyone else's thoughts, and I guess I better post my own here too.

I reckon we need to look at keeping him. He just seems to get better and better, yes he still makes mistakes, but that is part of the learning process. If we had to start from scratch, we would see more mistakes made by a new rookie. You would think that Johnno, Aker and Eage would all retire, we would probably need to make some hard calls on other players just to come close to matching GC. But I would like to see us try to keep him.

In my opinion, he's gone. We are not going to get within cooee of GC's offer(apparently he's already signed anyway) and you can't blame him for taking it.

The replacements on our list would be Callan(how bad is his injury?) and Gilbee(playing deeper than usual). Moles, Picken, Thorne, Howard, Stack, Wood, Addison, Hooper and Tutt are all options for that sort of position with a bit of development but I'm not sure if they would all be suited or good enough for it.

Harbrow came from the clouds to make that position his own and is a unique player. He is going to be hard to replace

[LostDoggy]

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I have come to terms with my main man leaving, i just hope he can help us lift the cup before he does.

[Scorlibo]

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I have come to terms with my main man leaving, i just hope he can help us lift the cup before he does.

If he does he will think twice before leaving.

[Ozza]

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A handful of the St.Kilda players were saying after Friday's nights game that they had heard through their management that he is gone and the deal is done. A terrible shame if true - really disappointing.

[LostDoggy]

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I have heard from a manager that he has already signed with GC but he also said Ablett had signed too and if you beleive what you read that is not true.

Basically we wont find out 100% till end of year so Enjoy the way he plays and pray it is not true but if it is you can't really blame him cause he has to look after his future and it will prob be double what the Dogs can offer, I would be more upset if he left for $50 000 more but double your wage is hard to refuse for anyone

[LostDoggy]

Re: Harbrow to the GC?.

A handful of the St.Kilda players were saying after Friday's nights game that they had heard through their management that he is gone and the deal is done. A terrible shame if true - really disappointing.

I'm curious as to why St. Kilda players would be talking about JH leavng for the GC after the game?

I hope we don't lose Harbrow, but if he's already signed with them that just makes it worse. I've always thought the NRL was so strange how players would sign with new clubs publicly while they still played for their current team.

[Ozza]

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I'm curious as to why St. Kilda players would be talking about JH leavng for the GC after the game?

They were talking about JH, how quick he was, how they couldn't catch him - and generally that he played a great game.