Bulldogs v Saints GF

[The Pie Man]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

Jones also won some important clearances.

Our rucks were also out-pointed at some crucial stages to give Hayes and co. clean ball.

* Yep, I am a sadist who has watched the replay a couple of times.

I watched it when I got home as I flat out could not sleep, but was also drunk of my oorse - was Gilbee's shot on the run in the last quarter really touched off the boot as called by Ch 7 at the time?

Hayes kept winning important possessions, I would love him more than St Nick if I was a Saints fan

[Mantis]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

Interested to know why you think this Mantis. As a general rule, I can't stand the Saints, but I really don't mind Jones.

Don't like the way he plays in his tagging role. Holds on too much around the contests and doesn't always face the contest preferring to watch his opponent.... I'm not a fan of players who play the game this way and think he gets too much latitude from the umps.

Perhaps he will change the way he plays the role, but at present I don't like it... But he is pretty effective.

I watched it when I got home as I flat out could not sleep, but was also drunk of my oorse - was Gilbee's shot on the run in the last quarter really touched off the boot as called by Ch 7 at the time?

Nah he just shanked it.

A Saints player came across him just as he was about to pull the trigger which made him change his running angle.

[Mantis]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

Squads:

NAB CUP
WESTERN BULLDOGS v ST KILDA

Western Bulldogs

1. Jarrad Grant
2. Robert Murphy
3. Andrejs Everitt
4. Daniel Cross
5. Matthew Boyd
7. Shaun Higgins
8. Mitch Hahn
9. Lindsay Gilbee
10. Nathan Eagleton
12. Tom Williams
13. Daniel Giansiracusa
14. Callan Ward
15. Ben Hudson
16. Ryan Griffen
17. Adam Cooney
20, Josh Hill
21. Jason Akermanis
22. Dylan Addison
23. Jordan Roughead
25. Ryan Hargrave
27. Will Minson
28. Barry Hall
29. Easton Wood
33. Tim Callan
36. Brian Lake
38. Dale Morris
40. Jarrod Harbrow
42. Liam Picken
44. Brodie Moles

St.Kilda

1 Jason Gram
2 Steven King
4 Clint Jones
5 Ben McEvoy
6 Zac Dawson
10 Steven Baker
11 Leigh Montagna
12 Nick Riewoldt
13 Adam Schneider
14 Jarryn Geary
18 Brendon Goddard
19 Sam Gilbert
20 David Armitage
21 Nick Heyne
22 Farren Ray
23 Justin Koschitzke
25 Sam Fisher
26 Nick Dal Santo
27 Jason Blake
28 Rhys Stanley
29 Tom Lynch
30 Brett Peake
32 Andrew McQualter
33 James Gwilt
38 Will Johnson
39 Alistair Smith
44 Stephen Milne
45 Luke Miles
49 Steven Gaertner

[EasternWest]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

Don't like the way he plays in his tagging role. Holds on too much around the contests and doesn't always face the contest preferring to watch his opponent.... I'm not a fan of players who play the game this way and think he gets too much latitude from the umps.

Perhaps he will change the way he plays the role, but at present I don't like it... But he is pretty effective.

Fair enough, I'll watch him a bit more closely from now on.

[mighty_west]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

Don't like the way he plays in his tagging role. Holds on too much around the contests and doesn't always face the contest preferring to watch his opponent.... I'm not a fan of players who play the game this way and think he gets too much latitude from the umps.

Would he be as much of a cheat as Cameron Ling?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

Would he be as much of a cheat as Cameron Ling?

All taggers (except Brett Kirk and our very own Picken) play on or just over the line. It's just the nature of the job, and at least Lingy gets his own ball.

I don't have any problems with players not looking at the ball, by the way, there's nothing in the rules that say that you're not allowed to look whichever way you like (in fact, not facing the ball and getting your body shape facing in the right direction is the correct technique and one of the first things defenders in most ball sports are taught) and run wherever you like, as long as you're not illegally stopping another player from getting to the ball. But isn't shepherding exactly that, minus the illegal part?

Having said that, Jones and Jake King are the biggest cheats in the game and should be rubbed out.

[Mofra]

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All taggers (except Brett Kirk and our very own Picken) play on or just over the line. It's just the nature of the job, and at least Lingy gets his own ball.

Picken is ok 99% of the time - I remember one marking contest where Delideo went nuts and had to leave the field under the blood rule shortly after. Picken must have got him a beauty, and unlike some of the scraggers he did it in the contest as well.

I thought Picken did a pretty good job on Pearce last weekend and would be odds-on to play rnd 1 as long as he contributes again on Saturday night.

[Twodogs]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

The long bomb to a swamped Hahn shouldn't occur this week.

I'm interested in Hahn's role this year. It just wont seem right to see him try and get possession without four defenders hanging off various bits of him.

Nah he just shanked it.

Gilbs shanks one a year-I mean shots at goals, not field kicking. It just had to be then didnt it?

[Mofra]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

I'm interested in Hahn's role this year. It just wont seem right to see him try and get possession without four defenders hanging off various bits of him.

He seemed to play "big guy no 2" againt Port, yet against the Hawks after his forays forward he took a centre bounce and went back to play on Buddy for a bit, playing the Welsh tallish-swingman role of 2009.

Will have to wait to see what his role is, but perhaps there is no one role and his flexibility as a player will be utilised depending on the opponent?

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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And if you want a watershed moment in the watershed game, it was Griffen doing his best Steven Kolyniuk impersonation by taking on Blake (who was manning the mark) and slotting a goal on the run from 50 metres out to kick start our comback from 6 goals down early in the 2nd qtr.

This was one of the best plays I've seen, Cooney against Cox was also good.

The dogs need to win tonight and I,m sure Morris will demand first crack at Roo to complete unfinished business. I like that as it would allow Tommy gun to towel up Kosi, that would pump him up for a crack at Cloke.

Dogs y 24 points

[GVGjr]

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How does everyone see the key defensive match-ups for us?

Lake on Riewoldt seems a certainty so I suppose it's Williams on Koschitske.

Who gets Milne and any of the resting ruckman the Saints are likely to throw forward?

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

How does everyone see the key defensive match-ups for us?

Lake on Riewoldt seems a certainty so I suppose it's Williams on Koschitske.

Who gets Milne and any of the resting ruckman the Saints are likely to throw forward?

I'd like to see Williams take Riewoldt , Lake on Koschitske, Morris on Milne & Shaggy on Schnieder.

[GVGjr]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

I'd like to see Williams take Riewoldt , Lake on Koschitske, Morris on Milne & Shaggy on Schnieder.

Would Everitt be the player to match-up on any resting ruckman?

[Mantis]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

How does everyone see the key defensive match-ups for us?

Lake on Riewoldt seems a certainty so I suppose it's Williams on Koschitske.

Who gets Milne and any of the resting ruckman the Saints are likely to throw forward?

I would go Morris on Riewoldt for the first 15 or so minutes of each quarter with Williams to follow. If we are going well I would play Williams on Riewoldt for an extended period.

Lake to Kosi as Brian seems to enjoy playing on the less mobile forwards, Riewoldt would be too quick on the lead and would run him around too much. Plus Lake flogged Kosi in the PF so it would be great if he could do so again to further dent Kosi's confidence against our team.

Williams could pick up the other big man when not on Riewoldt and could probably get help from Everitt, but personally I don't really want to see Everitt playing in defence on a similiarly sized opponent.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Bulldogs v Saints GF

The day is finally here, COME ON DOGGIES!!!