Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Agree 100% .... Hall gets a very rough deal, and as soon as he's in someone's face, they're looking for him.

Andrew, will you change your avatar if we win next week?
Im feelin your pain man but your avatar is bummin me out! It aint over till its over!

best,

frank

[AndrewP6]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Andrew, will you change your avatar if we win next week?
Im feelin your pain man but your avatar is bummin me out! It aint over till its over!

best,

frank

Hahaha... yeah, I probably will! As a number of people have noted, a week is a long time in football. I'm hoping to resurrect BAZZA as the avatar before too long.

Actually, given that it's causing distress, I might change it before then.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I blame Eade. He coaches a team that scores 20 goals per match,(and concedes more than most), so we are an attacking side not a defensive one. Our game plan is therefore to score, a lot. When we get held to 6 goals-hell even IF made the three or four easy misses, its still 50% of what we score, and don't forget they missed three or four sitters as well-IMO its still clearly a tactical failure. To let Lyon play his game for 120 minutes with no real answer of how we get to play our game is indicative of a coach with no answer.
A mate was of the opinion that to beat this system you need the forwards to be very mobile, you need the midfielders prepared to take and beat their men to put pressure on their defense.

Harsh, but Eade has to learn from this, otherwise other clubs will do it to us.
But IMO Eade really needs to look at his role, beacsue Collingwood did it to us last year when we came back but were 40 points down for much of the game.

That's crap.

St. Kilda's game plan makes it almost impossible to score - both for them and for us. Eade made sure we didn't cough the ball up and give them the chance to burn us on the rebound. With 5 minutes to go they had kicked 4 goals (including a dodgy free to Kosi and a 50m against Williams). Had we taken even half of our chances it's game over.

You don't have to kick 20 goals a game, just just have to kick more than them, and had we not shot ourselves in the foot with our finishing we would have doubled their score.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I blame Eade. He coaches a team that scores 20 goals per match,(and concedes more than most), so we are an attacking side not a defensive one. Our game plan is therefore to score, a lot. When we get held to 6 goals-hell even IF made the three or four easy misses, its still 50% of what we score, and don't forget they missed three or four sitters as well-IMO its still clearly a tactical failure. To let Lyon play his game for 120 minutes with no real answer of how we get to play our game is indicative of a coach with no answer.
A mate was of the opinion that to beat this system you need the forwards to be very mobile, you need the midfielders prepared to take and beat their men to put pressure on their defense.

Harsh, but Eade has to learn from this, otherwise other clubs will do it to us.
But IMO Eade really needs to look at his role, beacsue Collingwood did it to us last year when we came back but were 40 points down for much of the game.

Were you at the game Stefcep, or did you watch on TV? From where I was sitting Saints had so many players back i honestly dont know what else we could have done. IMO eades game plan worked, but we didn't take our chances. we will get them next time though!

[Sedat]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

That's crap.

St. Kilda's game plan makes it almost impossible to score - both for them and for us. Eade made sure we didn't cough the ball up and give them the chance to burn us on the rebound. With 5 minutes to go they had kicked 4 goals (including a dodgy free to Kosi and a 50m against Williams). Had we taken even half of our chances it's game over.

You don't have to kick 20 goals a game, just just have to kick more than them, and had we not shot ourselves in the foot with our finishing we would have doubled their score.

100% accurate Sockeye.

I've been amazed at the gullibility of media commentators who have commented about how the Dogs were lured into some sort of evil St Kilda web. I'm sure it was in Ross Lyon's plans to be two and a half goals down in time on in the last qtr

IMO our team was extremely disciplined in not succumbing to our natural attacking instincts and bombing it into an area where we would have been outnumbered 3-1 by opposition players. That's not to sat we were perfect on the night - we did fail to spot up some free targets on occasions and our uncontested kicking skills in a couple of notable times were below par. But the reality is that we would have been lured into the St Kilda trap had we blindly raced forward and kicked the ball quickly to the numerical disadvantage.

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

100% accurate Sockeye.

I've been amazed at the gullibility of media commentators who have commented about how the Dogs were lured into some sort of evil St Kilda web. I'm sure it was in Ross Lyon's plans to be two and a half goals down in time on in the last qtr

IMO our team was extremely disciplined in not succumbing to our natural attacking instincts and bombing it into an area where we would have been outnumbered 3-1 by opposition players. That's not to sat we were perfect on the night - we did fail to spot up some free targets on occasions and our uncontested kicking skills in a couple of notable times were below par. But the reality is that we would have been lured into the St Kilda trap had we blindly raced forward and kicked the ball quickly to the numerical disadvantage.

Agree with your comments Sedat and those of SS.

Thinking back one of biggest frustrations was that we didn't pull the trigger in and around the 50 when we had 1 on 1's further afield, especially with Hall. Hall was brought to the club to help us in these sitautions and our unwillingness to kick to him directly when he had some advantage was dissappointing. We chipped it back or sideways which allowed the Saints to flood back and the opportunity was lost.

The number of times we missed simple targets when kicking up the line was poor as well (as mentioned). Johnson missed quite a few (as he has before) which played into St.Kilda's hands in that they were able to force a ball-up or throw in which allowed them to further clog up our space.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I thought we needed to take them on a bit more, then there wouldn't be as many Saints players back. I'd really like to see us look for Griffen a bit more.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Agree with your comments Sedat and those of SS.

Thinking back one of biggest frustrations was that we didn't pull the trigger in and around the 50 when we had 1 on 1's further afield, especially with Hall. Hall was brought to the club to help us in these sitautions and our unwillingness to kick to him directly when he had some advantage was dissappointing. We chipped it back or sideways which allowed the Saints to flood back and the opportunity was lost.

The number of times we missed simple targets when kicking up the line was poor as well (as mentioned). Johnson missed quite a few (as he has before) which played into St.Kilda's hands in that they were able to force a ball-up or throw in which allowed them to further clog up our space.

This is something that I was watching closely for on Friday night and there were multiple times if we had played on quickly we could have kicked it to a one on one contest closer to goal but ended up kicking it backwards 30 metres. Apart from the easy misses at goal this is what I found so frustrating. I would have liked our guys to back themselves in more when the opportunity was there.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Yes it seemed the only time they kicked long into the forward line the Saints marked it - needed to deliver better to a one on one I guess.

Just repeating this in case it is reply worthy [from closed thread]

I thought Jarryd was easily BOG but it was weird that on the Dogs site they had Gia as our best; and in the Hun, although Gilbee was named only our 6th best, his stats looked better than Jarryd's, esp the 'metres gained' - 774 v 441 - and he got 153 points to Jarryd's 104, however they work that out.