And so it goes.... As usual!

[SonofScray]

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Who is going to step up in these situations? We have no one that is going to do a Jarman in '97 or what Milne can do for the Saints.

Higgins and Gia are guys i expect to finish games, but it just doesn't happen.

[Before I Die]

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I can understand disappointment from posters, but some of the disparaging remarks above are just wrong. The umps pay a holding the ball against Kosi, or one of Hall, Williams or Gia don't stuff up and we win. Suddenly all the doom and gloom above changes to roses and yet the qualtiy of the game and our performance is exactly the same. I am disappointed tonight and the four points may come back to bite us, but after attending the game tonight I think we are a much better chance for the flag than St. Kilda is.

From the first bounce they acknowledged they were outmatched and opted to simply strangle the game and roll the dice in the last 15 minutes. Tonight the dice fell their way, it was purely a matter of luck.

Chances are that if we figure in the finals, players such as Grant, Everitt, Williams and Roughead may have to play an important part. They all did their bit tonight and would have learnt a lot. Yes the four points hurt, but by the end of the round we will be one or two games outside the top four. Time to get a grip people.

[FrediKanoute]

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You are kidding. His fault. The loss is Gia's fault?

Geez, he was bloody good tonight. Yes, he made an error near the end and got smothered. I can cop an error like that more than I can cop Williams and Hall's stupidity or Eagleton failing to show up (for a change in a big game).

We lost the game for a stack of reasons. Our overall ball use, our timidness at shooting for goal around 50, are loss of run in the legs...

If it was Gia's fault then it was as much Grant's fault for his two shots later than that, and Gilbee for his miss even later.

One action early in the last quarter doesn't make someone at 'fault'for losing a game. Thats absurd.

Agree.....its like blaming Libba for the 97 Prelim loss. It's so easy in hindsight. Ball over top to Johnno and the doggies are home. We'd be sitting here congratulating Gia on his vision. Better to focus on the 10 behinds we kick tonight (mostly gettable) and the numerous times we overused the handball, turned the ball over than to sigle out one person. Its a team game you win as a team and you lose as a team.

[KT31]

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Agree.....its like blaming Libba for the 97 Prelim loss. It's so easy in hindsight. Ball over top to Johnno and the doggies are home. We'd be sitting here congratulating Gia on his vision. Better to focus on the 10 behinds we kick tonight (mostly gettable) and the numerous times we overused the handball, turned the ball over than to sigle out one person. Its a team game you win as a team and you lose as a team.

Why, Libba kicked the goal?

[GVGjr]

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Agree.....its like blaming Libba for the 97 Prelim loss. It's so easy in hindsight. Ball over top to Johnno and the doggies are home. We'd be sitting here congratulating Gia on his vision. Better to focus on the 10 behinds we kick tonight (mostly gettable) and the numerous times we overused the handball, turned the ball over than to sigle out one person. Its a team game you win as a team and you lose as a team.

As well as the 10 behinds, there were several marked right on the line, that could have/should have made the distance. Hahn I think was one example? and Murphy, who now can't seem to kick a 50 metre goal, but used to be able to make that distance...

[LostDoggy]

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Bulldust, we dominated 90% of the game and choked when the game should've been locked up. If we couldnt beat St Kilda without seemingly their only goal kicking option- we're toast.

Thats rubbish sorry but we were the better team, blew it, I am heart broken.

Well done HArbrow, his best game ever, deservd more.

[FrediKanoute]

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Why, Libba kicked the goal?

He didn't. Simple. If he'd kicked the goal we'd have been premiers in 1997.

[LostDoggy]

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I don't think we played badly. It was shades of the Prelim -- we match it with them in close, and we dominated possession. They couldn't even get out of their back half cleanly, and were kicking it out on the full pretty often.

It was Barcelona vs. Inter all over again. They don't want the ball, because that gets them out of position, they want to win back the ball ON THEIR TERMS, so they just sat back in their zone, waited for us to give the ball to them and hit us on the counter.

We just have to be smarter, and take our chances when it matters.

If we score goals instead of behinds, we win.

[GVGjr]

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I don't think we played badly. It was shades of the Prelim -- we match it with them in close, and we dominate possession.

It was Barcelona vs. Inter all over again. They just sat back and hit us on the counter. We just have to be smarter, and take our chances when it matters.

If we score goals instead of behinds, we win.

I've been banging on about it for a number of weeks but I'm staggered that professional footballers miss so many easy shots and as you say tonight we had our chances.

[KT31]

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He didn't. Simple. If he'd kicked the goal we'd have been premiers in 1997.

The goal umpire is on record as saying he made a mistake.
And we would have had to beat the Saints, and if you haven't been paying attention we seem to struggle in that area.

[Doc26]

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He didn't. Simple. If he'd kicked the goal we'd have been premiers in 1997.

For those sitting in a position to tell, as I was in that prelim., know that Libba's shot was most certainly a goal. It was a poor umpiring decision with a huge consequence.

[LostDoggy]

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I've been banging on about it for a number of weeks but I'm staggered that professional footballers miss so many easy shots and as you say tonight we had our chances.

That's probably why I'm so dirty on Gia, because his was the easiest of the lot, and he's one of our best kicks, but he didn't even go back and kick it. When chances are at such a premium, you just can't piss away opportunities like that.

[SonofScray]

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The goal umpire is on record as saying he made a mistake.

Really? I've never heard that. Ouch.

[LostDoggy]

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For those in a position to tell know that Libba's shot in the '97 prelim was a goal. It was a poor umpiring decision with a huge consequence.

I was sitting behind the goals, right behind the kick, and it went over my head. We were all celebrating, which we wouldn't have if it wasn't a goal. We're not stupid. The goal ump was out of position, ran and saw it late, and just guessed. He said later that it 'went over where the post would have been if it extended higher'. No way it did, it was past the goals before it ever got that high.

[KT31]

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Really? I've never heard that. Ouch.

Understatement!