And so it goes.... As usual!

[angelopetraglia]

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Yeah sorry, was in a bit of a rush this morning.

I didn't think we dominated that much of the game(it was an arm wrestle), I don't think we choked(that's not how I saw it anyway) and I believe the Saints are still a bloody good side even without Roo(they are probably still the best team in the comp) and were not toast. We will be 8 and 3 in 5 weeks time IMO.

I hope so.

[LostDoggy]

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Like most Woofers, I was so disappointed last night - managed to pick up the game on Melbourne radio up here, and it sounded like a dour struggle - very ugly footy? I could have thrown the radio through the window with 5 mins to go.............. and then i went to bed and tried to make the pain go away!

In the cold light of day, I think I am just as disappointed and perhaps worried that maybe, just maybe we aren't as good I as I thought we were. It seems we are running out of legs/stamina in the last quarter, when last year, our 4th quarters were terrific. I felt confident that we would be able to hold on and win, but the game just seemed to slip through our fingeers. Hard to tell from listening to the radio, but all your posts tell me the same story

I guess I've just got to hold the faith, and I'd have to believe that if I feel this bad, I can't begin to imagine how the players feel? C'mon doggies, stand and deliver - I don't want to see this season slip away from all of us!

[Bulldog4life]

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Or 2009 when we had exactly the same win-loss ratio but had been defeated by riff raff like Carlton and West Coast??

No one can be happy about last night, but to say that this is like 2007 doesn't make sense.

That's true. The difference this year seems to be that we are not running out the games like we did last year.I have heard Rocket used the word fatigued to describe our last quarters in a couple of matches already this year.Got no idea why this is the case especially after Aker said this was the most intense pre season he ever has done...or words to that effect. Also it is only round 6.

[lemmon]

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Yeah sorry, was in a bit of a rush this morning.

I didn't think we dominated that much of the game(it was an arm wrestle), I don't think we choked(that's not how I saw it anyway) and I believe the Saints are still a bloody good side even without Roo(they are probably still the best team in the comp) and were not toast. We will be 8 and 3 in 5 weeks time IMO.

Fair enough, I felt that we had the majority of the play but failed to capitalise on the amount of ball we had. Didn't move the footy fast enough or take enough risks.

[alwaysadog]

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I'm the exact opposite. I don't usually have such visceral emotions, but we HAD to win tonight. If we are "contenders" and they are "contenders", then we had to teach them that without Riewoldt we'll squash them. Put doubt in their minds. Instead, we've inspired them with confidence and they've put doubt in our minds. God I'm pi$$ed off right now.

I'm not happy either, but I wonder if they aren't trying too hard, sometimes you can undo all your good work by making it mean too much. Think of those shots for goal we keep missing.

Reminds me of when I played sport as a kid and the catches didn't stick at cricket if I wasn't relaxed and early on shots for goal at football went anywhere but where intended if the pressure was too high. I learnt to create perspective and it solved the problem but in the AFL hothouse it all sheep stations stuff.

In the end it doesn't matter what other teams think or feel, what matters is how we deal with the things we can control. I'd like to think about now our coaching staff were having a new look and engaging in some lateral thinking about our ongoing problem.

[MrMahatma]

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IMO Grant and Guido should have sealed it, they could have both closed the gate and put it beyond resonable doubt..
Both instances left Saints with a sniff.
The earlier ones are bad but it comes down to timing.

If Hall hadn't had that free reversed Gilbee would've kicked the goal and at that stage it could've been the end.

3 avoidable errors on the night cost us potentially 18 points (potenitially 3 to be fair).

Williams - Milne may still have kicked it.
Hall - Gilbee may have missed
Gia - Still could've missed it.

But in all likelihood - we'd have won had our boys done the smart thing in each situation.

[LostDoggy]

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Can't keep giving a team like the Saints chances to win. They narrowly missed at least two or three goals in that final quarter. Players like Gia should kick those goals (or at least go back and have the bloody opportunity!!!). There is no excuse. Take the bloody mark, kick the goal from that distance. Would have iced the game.

Thought Harbrow was outstanding - didn't get the switch passes that Gilbee and others got down back. he got his ball and danced and tackled like a man possessed.

I hope Eade runs the arse off these boys this week. I'd take a loss next week, due to a relevant excuse of exhaustion, just so these nancies know they're alive.

Still guttered!!!

[LostDoggy]

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Gia's cost us the game, plain and simple. You can bang on about other players who made critical errors in the game, they are not vice captains who are expected to sum up a situation and use leadership to make the best decision. He is a fantastic finisher and I cannot for the life of me understand why he would not take a breath go back and put a knife in the heart oif those ****s! Instead he manages to surpass Will for top honours in the art of stupidity on the footy field!!!!

The fact is, that moment in the game would of broke St Kilda's back and we probably would of won by 30 odd in the end. Sure, Grant (3 AFL games) missed his shot, but at least he summed up the situation and realised that it was his duty to go back and have a shot, something our vice captain couldn't seem to sum up. GIa's (200 odd games) brain fade results in St Kilda going up, kicking a goal and the momentum completely shifts!

Johnson running back into the square screaming for the ball certainly did not help. Questions needed to be asked of him, his need to get on the scoresheet may have superseeded what was best for the team which is really very sad! Johno is a shadow of his former self and at the moment it seems like we are nursing him through. His skills are atrocious and he is a step and a half behind the play. I know I'll get shot down for critising Johno, but I don't believe he is fit and prob should not be in the side.


Furthermore, I've read posts on both websites calling for the coaches head due to his game plan. His game plan had us up by 4 goals with 7 minutes to go, it is not his fault that our leaders are incompetant and do not know how to sum up certain situations. Gia was one and Barry Hall fighting in the goal square was equally as stupid.

I hear Eade speak about belief in this group every time he is one the radio and I am begining to wonder whether this group has mistaken belief for hope. If they truly do believe they are not showing it as always it is left to too few to do the work of many.

I still feel sick 3 days after the fact, I haven't felt that bad after a loss in some time!

[Sedat]

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I still feel sick 3 days after the fact, I haven't felt that bad after a loss in some time!

I only have to go back 7 matches to find a worse one.

[LostDoggy]

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Home and away, I should of specified.

[chef]

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Gia's cost us the game, plain and simple. You can bang on about other players who made critical errors in the game, they are not vice captains who are expected to sum up a situation and use leadership to make the best decision. He is a fantastic finisher and I cannot for the life of me understand why he would not take a breath go back and put a knife in the heart oif those ****s. Instead he manages to surpass Will for top honours in the art of stupidity on the footy field!!!!

The fact is, that moment in the game would of broke St Kilda's back and we probably would of won by 30 odd in the end. Sure, Grant (3 AFL games) missed his shot, but at least he summed up the situation and realised that it was his duty to go back and have a shot, something our vice captain couldn't seem to sum up. GIa's (200 odd games) brain fade results in St Kilda going up, kicking a goal and the momentum completely shifts!

Johnson running back into the square screaming for the ball certainly did not help. Questions needed to be asked of him, his need to get on the scoresheet may have superseeded what was best for the team which is really very sad! Johno is a shadow of his former self and at the moment it seems like we are nursing him through. His skills are atrocious and he is a step and a half behind the play. I know I'll get shot down for critising Johno, but I don't believe he is fit and prob should not be in the side.


Furthermore, I've read posts on both websites calling for the coaches head due to his game plan. His game plan had us up by 4 goals with 7 minutes to go, it is not his fault that our leaders are incompetant and do not know how to sum up certain situations. Gia was one and Barry Hall fighting in the goal square was equally as stupid.

I hear Eade speak about belief in this group every time he is one the radio and I am begining to wonder whether this group has mistaken belief for hope. If they truly do believe they are not showing it as always it is left to too few to do the work of many.

I still feel sick 3 days after the fact, I haven't felt that bad after a loss in some time!

No he didn't.

[Mantis]

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No he didn't.

Why quote all the dialogue when you are referring to the 1st line?

If Gia kicked the goal or we kick a goal from that piece of play we win.... It's that simple.

[LostDoggy]

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No he didn't.

Ah, yeah he did!

I mean, you could also blame Barry for reversing the 50, however, I place Gia up a cog because he is our vice captain, the best finisher in league and there is no credible excuse why he tried to do what he did. It began the momentum shift St Kilda's way and the rest is history.

Fact is, our game has us up by four goals and also out on our feet. We were spent and there was no way we were gonna stop a run on which added even more weight to Gia sealing the deal.

So, yes he did!

[chef]

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Why quote all the dialogue when you are referring to the 1st line?

If Gia kicked the goal or we kick a goal from that piece of play we win.... It's that simple.

It's not that simple.

If Hahn doesn't miss Williams with a 10 meter kick in the middle of the ground(when he should have handballed) we would have won. There's probably about 1000 things we could have done differently which would have made us win the game.

[chef]

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Ah, yeah he did!

I mean, you could also blame Barry for reversing the 50, however, I place Gia up a cog because he is our vice captain, the best finisher in league and there is no credible excuse why he tried to do what he did. It began the momentum shift St Kilda's way and the rest is history.

Fact is, our game has us up by four goals and also out on our feet. We were spent and there was no way we were gonna stop a run on which added even more weight to Gia sealing the deal.

So, yes he did!

Nah, don't agree.