Hall of fame

[jazzadogs]

Re: Hall of fame

I was reflecting as Macrae and Daniel move on - how many of the 2016 premiership team are HoF worthy on an individual basis? How much weight does the premiership carry?

Morris and Boyd are already in. Bont is a lock. Libba almost certain. Wood as skipper and 188 games very likely.

JJ will likely end up on similar games totals to Gilbee and Hargrave, but with a flag, norm and a losing GF. Does he get in ahead of them?

Where does Macrae rank? 249 games, 3x AA, best finals player 2021, b&f runner up X3 and third x2

Roughead 138 games with a flag, Eagleton 221 games with three losing prelims - are either of them getting inducted?

8/20 of the 1954 team are in the Hall of Fame.

Interested in other posters thoughts!

Current HoF members (PP = premiership player)
Simon Beasley
George Bisset
Peter Box (PP)
Jack Collins (PP)
Wally Donald (PP)
Herb Henderson (PP)
Harry Hickey
John Jillard
Brad Johnson
Tony Liberatore
Alby Morrison
Bernie Quinlan
Don Ross (PP)
Brian Royal
Joe Ryan
Rohan Smith
Kelvin Templeton
Stephen Wallis
Scott West
Scott Wynd
Jim Gallagher (PP)
Robert Murphy
Dale Morris (PP)
Matthew Boyd (PP)
Luke Darcy

[Virgin-Dog]

Re: Hall of fame

I was reflecting as Macrae and Daniel move on - how many of the 2016 premiership team are HoF worthy on an individual basis? How much weight does the premiership carry?

Morris and Boyd are already in. Bont is a lock. Libba almost certain. Wood as skipper and 188 games very likely.

JJ will likely end up on similar games totals to Gilbee and Hargrave, but with a flag, norm and a losing GF. Does he get in ahead of them?

Where does Macrae rank? 249 games, 3x AA, best finals player 2021, b&f runner up X3 and third x2

Roughead 138 games with a flag, Eagleton 221 games with three losing prelims - are either of them getting inducted?

8/20 of the 1954 team are in the Hall of Fame.

Interested in other posters thoughts!

Current HoF members (PP = premiership player)
Simon Beasley
George Bisset
Peter Box (PP)
Jack Collins (PP)
Wally Donald (PP)
Herb Henderson (PP)
Harry Hickey
John Jillard
Brad Johnson
Tony Liberatore
Alby Morrison
Bernie Quinlan
Don Ross (PP)
Brian Royal
Joe Ryan
Rohan Smith
Kelvin Templeton
Stephen Wallis
Scott West
Scott Wynd
Jim Gallagher (PP)
Robert Murphy
Dale Morris (PP)
Matthew Boyd (PP)
Luke Darcy

I can see all of Bont, Picken, Wood and Libba. Macrae I think ends up borderline, not sure - is he more deserving than Gia for example?

[jeemak]

Re: Hall of fame

I don't see how you can keep a 249 game, premiership player, 3 x AA and multiple top three Sutton medalist (3 runners up and two thirds in the Bont era) out of the HOF. Jacko is a lock.

Completely devastated Jacko isn't playing with us anymore. While I always wanted him to kick a few more goals, outside of that he was the complete player for us. Tough, tackled, got shitloads of the footy, took the hit, used it well by hand and foot, and did it every week for pretty close to a decade.

Actually surprised people seem to be much more upset about Daniel's departure, and I love Caleb as well.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Hall of fame

I don't see how you can keep a 249 game, premiership player, 3 x AA and multiple top three Sutton medalist (3 runners up and two thirds in the Bont era) out of the HOF. Jacko is a lock.

Completely devastated Jacko isn't playing with us anymore. While I always wanted him to kick a few more goals, outside of that he was the complete player for us. Tough, tackled, got shitloads of the footy, took the hit, used it well by hand and foot, and did it every week for pretty close to a decade.

Actually surprised people seem to be much more upset about Daniel's departure, and I love Caleb as well.

I'm still processing Jacko and CD's departures.
Agree with all you said,and I'll add my two cents worth soon.

[jeemak]

Re: Hall of fame

I'm still processing Jacko and CD's departures.
Agree with all you said,and I'll add my two cents worth soon.

Now that I know you agree with me I'll probably skim over it.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Hall of fame

Now that I know you agree with me I'll probably skim over it.

That's just Jeenak talking now!

[jeemak]

Re: Hall of fame

That's just Jeenak talking now!

There is no Jeenak, only Zuul.

Process that mate.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Hall of fame

Bont, Jacko and Libba are all locks, as the core of our greatest ever midfield.

Morris and Boyd already in.

Then I'd expect Wood, Picken and JJ to find their way in as great servants of the club who played crucial roles when it mattered most. Leaving us with 8 from the 16 flag to match the 8 from 54.

Gut feel is CD misses out now, finishing his career elsewhere.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Hall of fame

There is no Jeenak, only Zuul.

Process that mate.

Haha. I am Vigo..or was it the eggman..or the Walrus??
Koo Koo Ka Joo!

[jazzadogs]

Re: Hall of fame

Bont, Jacko and Libba are all locks, as the core of our greatest ever midfield.

Morris and Boyd already in.

Then I'd expect Wood, Picken and JJ to find their way in as great servants of the club who played crucial roles when it mattered most. Leaving us with 8 from the 16 flag to match the 8 from 54.

Gut feel is CD misses out now, finishing his career elsewhere.

Very similar to my thoughts. Roughead, Caleb, Hunter in that next rung who just miss out.

[josie]

Re: Hall of fame

I know it doesn’t count towards hall of fame but the honourable way Caleb left makes him a legend in my eyes. Big heart, RWB all the way. We put trust in his skills and were not fooled that his lack of height would stop him being an A grader (until the complexion of the game changed a few years ago towards speed). I think he paid us back in spades. From the first pre-season game I saw him play in Ballarat I knew we had a special player. In his prime I think he had the cleverest disposal over short distances in my time watching football, albeit I don’t watch all other non doggies matches.

[SonofScray]

Re: Hall of fame

Caleb misses out.
Jack gets in.

Bont, Libba, Wood Picken and JJ comfortably.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Hall of fame

I'm still processing Jacko and CD's departures.
Agree with all you said,and I'll add my two cents worth soon.

So reflecting after its all started to get real now, as I've a Saints friend who has been asking me for my thoughts on Jack.

What I realised in talking to my friend is that Macrae, and Daniel will always mean more to me than just the sum of their attributes and football skill. I don't think my friend was super impressed by my recounting of Jack's traits as being what they need. Who knows maybe he's right.
But what I do know is that he and Caleb represent to me the best elements of our journey from our mess coming into and out of the BMac's era, into Bevo's and what's become the most successful era in the club's history.

Caleb was such an inspired Bevo pick the 'if he was 10 cm's taller where would you rate him' was I think the question he asked the recruiting team at the time to change their mindset on his selection and instead focus them on what he could bring to the team.
Jack Macrae was just so reliable week in week out, and has always had a high footy IQ. We needed Jack's attributes early on when BMac and Bevo were trying to establish their gameplan..

I know Bevo dropped him early days, and he just reapplied himself and got down to business.. didn't ask for a trade, didn't seem to sulk, and just did we he does best and earned multiple AA jumpers.

I respect that maybe the time was now for them to explore other options and enable the club to look to build or nuance the game plan by bringing in players with different attributes and skillsets.

And they are one of few Ex-Bulldogs I genuinely will feel good about seeing them personally do well on field at their new club. I would be very happy if Macrae and/or Daniel were to win AA jumpers again.