Ins & Outs - R15

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

Roughy does offer a fair bit as a ruckman resting forward - would this come into consideration for the MRP with Hahn's position in the team?

What do the Match Review Panel have to do with selecting our side?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

In: Roughead, Moles, Williams, Everitt
Out: Minson, Reid, Johnson, Hahn

[Mofra]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

What do the Match Review Panel have to do with selecting our side?

My mistake - although I remember some FB we had a while ago called Harris who tended to rely on them a bit

[LostDoggy]

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Those of you seeking to drop Johnson have short memories. Two weeks back and whilst not a standout, his performances have been acceptable particularly alongside a couple of others.

To replace him with Moles is an extraordinary suggestion - no extra pace and about half the ability.

What a knee jerk reaction to perhaps their best effort of the season.

Somewhere along the line we need to appreciate we played against a pretty fair side and had the game gone for 8 quarters, I reckon there still would not have been anymore than 3 points in it either way.

[Greystache]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

What do the Match Review Panel have to do with selecting our side?

Might be the only way to get Mitch out of the side.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

Those of you seeking to drop Johnson have short memories. Two weeks back and whilst not a standout, his performances have been acceptable particularly alongside a couple of others.

To replace him with Moles is an extraordinary suggestion - no extra pace and about half the ability.

What a knee jerk reaction to perhaps their best effort of the season.

Somewhere along the line we need to appreciate we played against a pretty fair side and had the game gone for 8 quarters, I reckon there still would not have been anymore than 3 points in it either way.

I don't think anyone is dropping Johnson. He was rolled his ankle and it looks like he won't come up.


FWIW, the rest of your post is spot on.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

Just a few comments.

Higgins
Obviously not playing his best and doesn't deserve his place in the side. I would take the risk that he will play into form and play him again this week. OK, this may cost, but the upside is good.

Wood
Very good. Can see improvement in him for the remainder of the year. Has to be encouraged. Part of our future.

Ward
Ditto on Wood. Part of our future.

Johnson
Should retire. A lot of us thought that he should have retired at the end of last year. Will just continue to get injured, will not regain his best form. Will be a liability to the team. Doesn't hold his end up. Is keeping out a good player like Everitt or maybe Hooper or Rose. Any one of those in the team instead of Johnno and we would have won.
Everitt
His form with Williamstown is one of a class player. Accurate and good long and short kicking. Positions himself well. Should have been in the team ages ago. Can't understand why he is left out. He oozes class. Is there a personal issue here? Part of our future.

Hooper
May be that nippy forward we are looking for. Worth a try one week.

Rose
He is just one of those unfashionable players who gets to where the ball is rather than where it 'aint. You got to be a good player to be captain of Williamstown, the top VFL side. You got to be a good player to be Captain of the VFL side. Worth a try as a small forward. Is better than now Brad Johnson.

Hahn
Badly out of form. But this has been known for some time. Its not like he has been coming back from injury and will be played into form. He just fell out of form. Has to be dropped. Has to be.

Reid
Cannot be given another game until his shoulders are fixed. Has to be put on a program of some sort. Can't afford him to get a shoulder injury during the match. Worth keeping.

Eagleton
Do not give him another game. He is not part of our future. Youngies will be better.

Addison
Probably one of the best players for Williamstown. Lots of possessions with some good passes. But don't be fooled. He also makes crap mistakes. No more games for Addison. He is not part of our future.

Stack
Amazing that he wasn't delisted last year. Amazing that he got games this year. What were they thinking?

Cross
His game has improved somewhat lately as he has been going the run forward and long(ish) kick forward (as opposed to his usual dinky-doo handpass and backwards kick). I have been pleased to see this. But on Friday night when under pressure out came the dinky-doo hand-pass that was stuffed up as the receiver was tackled and down the gurgler went another goal.

Roughead.
Not as good as Minson yet, but can improve with more game time. He seems to have what it takes. Part of our future.

Akermanis
A better player than Johnson and should be played in preference to Brad Johnson but not in preference to one of the young guys.

Tim Callan
Not part of our future.

Harbrow.
Well I saw the game on Friday night but I don't understand what this guy was supposed to be doing. Has he fallen out of form?

Shaggy
As was stated by someone else, didn't think he was playing at one stage until he popped up with a mark on the half-back flank. Fallen out of form and ripe for the chop.

Hill
I know you can get frustrated by him. But, but he takes these marks and kicks these goals and sticks his hand here and there and does these unusual things. He is borderline but I would like to see him given some encouragement and that might improve his game.

Williams
Has played a lot of games now and I can't see where he has really been tested. He doesn't seem to have been given any really tough jobs. I would like to see his mettle and put him in the team and match him up against their best and see what he is really made of. I can't form an opinion on him because he has not yet had it tough.

So given those opinions:

Out: Reid and Minson if injured.
Out Hahn and Johnson because they are crap.In: Everitt and Roughead.
In: Williams and Hill

I seriously can't wait till our LEGEND get's his body right and he will! Just so I stop having to read or hear these sort of comments. What Johnno might lack at the moment he more than makes up for with Leadership and Morale. A little more respect is needed please.

[Ghost Dog]

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I seriously can't wait till our LEGEND get's his body right and he will! Just so I stop having to read or hear these sort of comments. What Johnno might lack at the moment he more than makes up for with Leadership and Morale. A little more respect is needed please.

yeah, poor post.
Still, I really think it is lack of leadership that has cost us this season. A Hodge or a Mitchell type. Really hope Johnno can get back into the swing of it. I would rather have him than several others.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

Yep all the more reason to keep him in the side. If hese injured so be it, but we need him more than ever now. I have my fingers and toes crossed.

[Mantis]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

In: Everitt, Roughead, Hill
Out: Reid, Minson (both injured), Hahn

B: Harbrow, Lake, Gilbee
HB: Hargrave, Morris, Wood
C: Griffen, Cross, Picken
HF: Grant, Murphy, Higgins
F: Giansiracusa, Hall, Johnson
R: Hudson, Boyd, Cooney

Int: Everitt, Roughead, Ward, Hill

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* Picken to shut out Kade Simpson who is already sleeping in the Carlton change room.
* Cross to 'tag' Gibbs - not run with tag.
* Cooney to play on and beat Judd.
* Gilbee to Betts, Harbrow to Garlett & Wood to Yarran.
* Everitt to play a utility role such that he spends time in all 'zones'.

[Mofra]

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^^^ Interesting selections.

Given Betts form as their most effective current forward, I'd be inclined to consider Morris for the role. If Williams comes back (as some have suggested) we can afford Morris to go to a small.

[Mantis]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

^^^ Interesting selections.

Given Betts form as their most effective current forward, I'd be inclined to consider Morris for the role. If Williams comes back (as some have suggested) we can afford Morris to go to a small.

I made the conscious decision not to bring Williams back - I just don't no what he offers our team.... If Williams plays Morris could probably go 'small', but I think our team looks and plays better when Morris plays on a tall.

The only reason I would play Williams was if Lake was going to play as a permanent forward.

[LostDoggy]

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I seriously think we need some new fresh blood in our forward line, at the moment we have players like Hahn down there who pretty much knows hes not going to get dropped, if we brought in a Hooper or Jones they would try their guts out (like Grant) because they know it could be their only opportunity!

Hahn offers nothing, Johnson should probably have a few games at Willy just to get his body right, same with Higgins, Aker is not the answer to our forward lines problems.


By the way my mate who was helping out at the train with the team day said Higgins got knocked out, so I wonder how he will pull up.

We need our players to WANT to play, to WANT to win, to WORK HARDER if they make a mistake and FIX IT!

[mjp]

Re: Ins & Outs - R15

In: Everitt, Roughead, Hill
Out: Reid, Minson (both injured), Hahn

B: Harbrow, Lake, Gilbee
HB: Hargrave, Morris, Wood
C: Griffen, Cross, Picken
HF: Grant, Murphy, Higgins
F: Giansiracusa, Hall, Johnson
R: Hudson, Boyd, Cooney

Int: Everitt, Roughead, Ward, Hill

I don't mind this. With Kreuzer out I would tell Hudson to suck it up, use Everitt to give him 2 x 2 min spells each quarter and player an extra runner in place of Roughead.

We dont want to be caught going tall against these guys and having either Moles or Callan or Addison available as an extra defensive option on the Betts/Yarran/Garlett triumvirate would be useful on game-day.

[Mofra]

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We need our players to WANT to play, to WANT to win, to WORK HARDER if they make a mistake and FIX IT!

Eade has said a number of times in the past few weeks it isn't workrate that is killing us, it's decision making and skill (it's clearly down on last year).

I'd be inclined to look at our better ball users when the MC meet, so DFA/Callan/Addison probably aren't the guys I'd be looking to promote.