Are we carrying Johno?

[chef]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Well, I was ridiculed on this forum when I suggested that Johnson should retire. It was The Coon Dog from memory.

The problem really lies with the Football Administration Department, (or how-so-ever they are called), they don't have half a brain between the lot of them. I'd like to know their names so that I could contact them. We look forward to this department making proactive and positive decisions. Instead they have just been making a series of dumb ones. This not only includes keeping aged players on the list but also by selecting proven dud players, selecting players who should be dropped because of poor form and non-selection of young guns from Willi. Also, by keeping those aged and dud players we missed out on recruiting players like Barlow, Stijk, Podsiadly and others.

Look at the aged players they started the year with - Akre, Johnno, Eagles, Hall. A recipe for failure. Johnno and Eagles will play a good game every now and again, but that's just not good enough. (But good enough for their supporters to be kept sucked in). At their age they have lost the majority of their skills. Hall is the only one I would keep and I would only keep him for this year. There are just so many good players in the Willi side who should have racked up many more games by now.

I'd also like to know who or what is keeping Patrick Rose out of the side. I know he has Rookie status but surely he would be many times better than Johnno. Is it Johnno keeping him out, because of his own greed or selfishness?

Johnno is not Bambi. He is a selfish player who uses the captaincy and the good will of the supporters to play on way beyond his use-by date. What is more, Johnson knows that he has lost his skills, he knows that he is injured, he knows that he doesn't deserve his place in the team.

If you think that Johnno is in our best 22 then I think you have been sucked in. If you think that Johnno will take a good opposition player then you think that opposition coaches don't do their homework and are silly enough to think that Johnno is worth it.

Reasons that will make the premiership harder to win.
1. Johnson allowed to play on beyond use-by date.

Johnno deserves nothing. The club owes him nothing. The club owes me and another 30,000 supporters a premiership. That's their first duty.

Why does the club owe you anything?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

So do I. I don't think we should stamp his papers on the back of one poor effort when he had 18-19 teammates in the same boat.

My thoughts exactly - against Freo, Johnno looked back to his best. Yes, he is slower, etc., but I can't just ping Johnno for Saturday night's effort. The guy never hangs his head or stops trying.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Well, I was ridiculed on this forum when I suggested that Johnson should retire. It was The Coon Dog from memory.

My criticism of you has been your use of derogatory terms when describing players. Perhaps review your posts, find out who it was that criticised you & have a crack at them! It well may have been myself, though I very much doubt it.

I guess what I'm saying is you're having a crack at me, without knowing for sure whether or not it is me you should be having a crack at.

[always right]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

I think there should be a moratorium on the use of the word "Bambi" in any post relating to Brad Johnson. Anyone with me?

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

My thoughts exactly - against Freo, Johnno looked back to his best. Yes, he is slower, etc., but I can't just ping Johnno for Saturday night's effort. The guy never hangs his head or stops trying.

Wouldn't really make sense after one game. But his tackling stats are shockingl. He really needs a big game next round. Ask yourself this. If you were an opposition coach, would you be concerned about having him in your back 50? These days, the only way I feel confident he will win a marking contest is through a free. Still, Rocket seems confident and he has been ok before last week. And who would replace him?

[Curly5]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Until last weekend Johnno was improving by the week. Not fair to single him out when few other players were much better. No one would be more aware of his need to perform than Johnno himself. Let's see how he goes in the next couple of games before we condemn him. And of course, no one has suggested a replacement. A bit late in the year to bring in a rookie.

Aker's gall is breathtaking. Everything he is saying about Johnno applied to him and more. But did he admit it in the Herald Sun or on radio? I don't remember him volunteering to step down from the team when his body started to let him down and he wasn't making much of a contribution. He even brought up the T word: "His body is now not to be trusted by him or his teammates." Well, he'd know all about that. Ah Aker, revenge is sweet, is it not?

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Until last weekend Johnno was improving by the week. Not fair to single him out when few other players were much better. No one would be more aware of his need to perform than Johnno himself. Let's see how he goes in the next couple of games before we condemn him. And of course, no one has suggested a replacement. A bit late in the year to bring in a rookie.

Aker's gall is breathtaking. Everything he is saying about Johnno applied to him and more. But did he admit it in the Herald Sun or on radio? I don't remember him volunteering to step down from the team when his body started to let him down and he wasn't making much of a contribution. He even brought up the T word: "His body is now not to be trusted by him or his teammates." Well, he'd know all about that. Ah Aker, revenge is sweet, is it not?

I think in a way it's actually good for Brad to have Aker on his back. It will give him something to push against - drive him a bit. Go Dogs!

[Greystache]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Well, I was ridiculed on this forum when I suggested that Johnson should retire. It was The Coon Dog from memory.

The problem really lies with the Football Administration Department, (or how-so-ever they are called), they don't have half a brain between the lot of them. I'd like to know their names so that I could contact them. We look forward to this department making proactive and positive decisions. Instead they have just been making a series of dumb ones. This not only includes keeping aged players on the list but also by selecting proven dud players, selecting players who should be dropped because of poor form and non-selection of young guns from Willi. Also, by keeping those aged and dud players we missed out on recruiting players like Barlow, Stijk, Podsiadly and others.

Look at the aged players they started the year with - Akre, Johnno, Eagles, Hall. A recipe for failure. Johnno and Eagles will play a good game every now and again, but that's just not good enough. (But good enough for their supporters to be kept sucked in). At their age they have lost the majority of their skills. Hall is the only one I would keep and I would only keep him for this year. There are just so many good players in the Willi side who should have racked up many more games by now.

I'd also like to know who or what is keeping Patrick Rose out of the side. I know he has Rookie status but surely he would be many times better than Johnno. Is it Johnno keeping him out, because of his own greed or selfishness?

Johnno is not Bambi. He is a selfish player who uses the captaincy and the good will of the supporters to play on way beyond his use-by date. What is more, Johnson knows that he has lost his skills, he knows that he is injured, he knows that he doesn't deserve his place in the team.

If you think that Johnno is in our best 22 then I think you have been sucked in. If you think that Johnno will take a good opposition player then you think that opposition coaches don't do their homework and are silly enough to think that Johnno is worth it.

Reasons that will make the premiership harder to win.
1. Johnson allowed to play on beyond use-by date.

Johnno deserves nothing. The club owes him nothing. The club owes me and another 30,000 supporters a premiership. That's their first duty.

When did I log onto the comments section of the Herald-Sun? I must have clicked the wrong link.

[Mofra]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

A relevant question to ask is if Josh Hill had put up the same numbers as Johnno did on the weekend what would our reaction be?

After a month of solid football? It would be practically expected from Josh.

The disappointment is going from 5 tackles to 0 tackles, but I'm willing to give Johnno a chance to turn it around.

[Mantis]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

My thoughts exactly - against Freo, Johnno looked back to his best. Yes, he is slower, etc., but I can't just ping Johnno for Saturday night's effort. The guy never hangs his head or stops trying.

Against Freo Johnno was very poor in the first half, did better in the 2nd half, but it's always a little easier when your 10+ goals in front.

Against North he looked good, but he was playing on a kid who was playing just his 2nd game.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

For me it's pretty simple..YOU NEVER WRITE OFF A CHAMPION....we have all seen it hundreds of times, Warney was written off at least twice, Johnno will know that his spot is under pressure and if he is still up to it we will see how he responds in the next two weeks!!

[Remi Moses]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Way to harsh^^ agree we went in with probably one to many older players ,but subscribing to your aged theory Ben Hudson would be out of the side. The club made the tough call on West so I'd say they wouldn't be afraid to retire Johnson.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Johnno will know that his spot is under pressure and if he is still up to it we will see how he responds in the next two weeks!!

He's not under pressure for his spot. If he can he will play. No way will the MC drop him unless he's crippled.

[Chicago1]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

I kind of like this reply that I found in the Comments section of that person's article in the H/S:

Jim of Chicago USA Posted at 4:04 AM Today

The writer is like a recently divorced spouse who was caught cheating, sent packing and now wants to get revenge. (Notice I didn't use "wife" or "husband" as I'm not sure which one he'd be more similar to, though his actions do hint...) Scapegoats have been used throughout history by small minded, bigoted people with a set agenda. This is no different. Controversy attracts interest and sells papers. That's the business that the writer is in now, full time, well, at least for the rest of this season. The writer may have some valid points, but the bitterness and guttersnipery(I think I just made that word up!) overshadows any opinion he might have, in my "humble" opinion.(A word he's not familiar with.) I place his opinion on the same plane as FOX NEWS here.

Comment 47 of 224


I've been told that one of my comments about "him" made it into the newspaper itself a few weeks ago. I might ask to be put on the H/S staff for the rest of the season.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

A relevant question to ask is if Josh Hill had put up the same numbers as Johnno did on the weekend what would our reaction be?

I would think that we would be baying for blood.

Johnno had 9 disposals, 6 marks, 0 goals, 0 goal assists & 0 tackles = 12 SC points.

In Josh's last game against Adelaide he had:

6 disposals, 3 marks, 1 goal, 0 goal assists & 5 tackles = 44 SC points.

My point exactly.

Hahn, Johnson, Higgins and Ward have been rubbish for most of the season. For whatever reason, many posters keep finding excuses for them and quite clearly - so too do the MC.

Hill has been far from good this year, but he's been no worse than the players mentioned above. Johnson is probably an exception with a couple of OK games - but it's pretty obvious he's struggling to make an impact in competitive games.

Despite this, the majority of WBD supporters at games and on forums are saying Hill's a dud and should be traded. Fact is, Josh is a scapegoat for supporters and the MC. Everitt ditto.

A lot of the same people said Grant would never make it.