Are we carrying Johno?

[AndrewP6]

Re: Are we carrying Johno?

Look guys. I love Johnno. But he should have retired last year.

Agreed.

[Go_Dogs]

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The doubts about him are fair enough, but Johnno has helped us win big games before and I reckon can still do so.

I agree with this, and I'm certainly loathe to write him off because he's such a champion player.

I also agree with your assessments of his form. I think he's been pretty handy up forward, and his field kicking - in-particular his short kicking to inside the F50 - has been a feature of his play. His decision making remains very good IMO. Hopefully he can get the execution right in a high pressure game.

I do wonder though at what point of the finals campaign his position does get re-assessed if he's playing poorly?

[Remi Moses]

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There's truth in what he's saying, but his motivations are no doubt sour grapes. Our defensive pressure is poor and defensive pressure will play a major part in deciding who wins the flag, Jono even when fit was weak in this area, now he's struggling with his body it's even more exposed.

There's need to make an announcement, leave him out of the team with injury and just tell the media he hasn't been able to get it right and he'll be back if he can over come it.

I think's it tough wanting Johnno to retire after he had a good year last season.The Achilles has crushed him I don't think his form is all that bad but obviously not as good as he was.Just hope the club don't bother responding to Akermanis,MTR's 3 listeners must hang on His pearls of wisdom

[lemmon]

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That isn't going to work.

Johnno has lost his acceleration and his hands haven't been as good this year so I can't see him playing well in this role.

He needs to be able to run around.

The high half foward role isn't working, his lack of pace means he is caught on the lead and is skills have been down, it also allows for his opponents to work off him a bit more easily knowing he cant hurt them the other way from such a high position. He hasnt lost his smarts or goal sense and I'm not sure marking over his head is completely past him so perhaps a role inside the F50 could allow him to snag a few and at least contribute on the scoreboard.

[MrMahatma]

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Come the first week of the finals - Heath Shaw or Harry O will go to him and have 35 touches and set up about 10 goals. He's a liability against the good teams.

[BulldogBelle]

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His role in the team needs to be more defined. I agree with other posters that Johnno as a stay at home forward near the goal square is his thing now. He will be more exposed the further from goal he is. Let Gia, Higgins, Ward and Grant do the job Johnno used to up the field. In reality, Grant has taken Johnnos role and is doing it well, leaving little room in the side for our aging veteran.

[ratsmac]

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It took sour grapes Aker to bring it up, but that fact that we are having this conversation about Johnno says alot. Where to play him? He could get exploited! ect ect. These are all questions that should not be asked about the captain of a hopeful premeirship team. The only upside for Johnno's defence is if he were to retire tomorrow, who would take his spot?

[Flamethrower]

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I wonder at times whether fans actually watch the game or just read the opinions in the paper and take them as gospel. While Brad Johnson was out of the team early in the season we really struggled, especially up forward coming to grips with having Barry Hall as a focal point.

It is no coincidence that since Johnno came back into the team we have found form and have been looking much better. Saturday night was an abberation - Johnno didn't play well but he was hardly Robinson Crusoe, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water FFS.

It is unlikely that Johnno will regain 100% fitness this year, but is easily still in our best 22 and if he can get his body right over summer should go again next year to prove all the haters wrong.

[BulldogBelle]

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Well, I was ridiculed on this forum when I suggested that Johnson should retire. It was The Coon Dog from memory.

The problem really lies with the Football Administration Department, (or how-so-ever they are called), they don't have half a brain between the lot of them. I'd like to know their names so that I could contact them. We look forward to this department making proactive and positive decisions. Instead they have just been making a series of dumb ones. This not only includes keeping aged players on the list but also by selecting proven dud players, selecting players who should be dropped because of poor form and non-selection of young guns from Willi. Also, by keeping those aged and dud players we missed out on recruiting players like Barlow, Stijk, Podsiadly and others.

Look at the aged players they started the year with - Akre, Johnno, Eagles, Hall. A recipe for failure. Johnno and Eagles will play a good game every now and again, but that's just not good enough. (But good enough for their supporters to be kept sucked in). At their age they have lost the majority of their skills. Hall is the only one I would keep and I would only keep him for this year. There are just so many good players in the Willi side who should have racked up many more games by now.

I'd also like to know who or what is keeping Patrick Rose out of the side. I know he has Rookie status but surely he would be many times better than Johnno. Is it Johnno keeping him out, because of his own greed or selfishness?

Johnno is not Bambi. He is a selfish player who uses the captaincy and the good will of the supporters to play on way beyond his use-by date. What is more, Johnson knows that he has lost his skills, he knows that he is injured, he knows that he doesn't deserve his place in the team.

If you think that Johnno is in our best 22 then I think you have been sucked in. If you think that Johnno will take a good opposition player then you think that opposition coaches don't do their homework and are silly enough to think that Johnno is worth it.

Reasons that will make the premiership harder to win.
1. Johnson allowed to play on beyond use-by date.

Johnno deserves nothing. The club owes him nothing. The club owes me and another 30,000 supporters a premiership. That's their first duty.

[AndrewP6]

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Well, I was ridiculed on this forum when I suggested that Johnson should retire. It was The Coon Dog from memory.

The problem really lies with the Football Administration Department, (or how-so-ever they are called), they don't have half a brain between the lot of them. I'd like to know their names so that I could contact them. We look forward to this department making proactive and positive decisions. Instead they have just been making a series of dumb ones. This not only includes keeping aged players on the list but also by selecting proven dud players, selecting players who should be dropped because of poor form and non-selection of young guns from Willi. Also, by keeping those aged and dud players we missed out on recruiting players like Barlow, Stijk, Podsiadly and others.

Look at the aged players they started the year with - Akre, Johnno, Eagles, Hall. A recipe for failure. Johnno and Eagles will play a good game every now and again, but that's just not good enough. (But good enough for their supporters to be kept sucked in). At their age they have lost the majority of their skills. Hall is the only one I would keep and I would only keep him for this year. There are just so many good players in the Willi side who should have racked up many more games by now.

I'd also like to know who or what is keeping Patrick Rose out of the side. I know he has Rookie status but surely he would be many times better than Johnno. Is it Johnno keeping him out, because of his own greed or selfishness?

Johnno is not Bambi. He is a selfish player who uses the captaincy and the good will of the supporters to play on way beyond his use-by date. What is more, Johnson knows that he has lost his skills, he knows that he is injured, he knows that he doesn't deserve his place in the team.

If you think that Johnno is in our best 22 then I think you have been sucked in. If you think that Johnno will take a good opposition player then you think that opposition coaches don't do their homework and are silly enough to think that Johnno is worth it.

Reasons that will make the premiership harder to win.
1. Johnson allowed to play on beyond use-by date.

Johnno deserves nothing. The club owes him nothing. The club owes me and another 30,000 supporters a premiership. That's their first duty.

You don't, by chance, work for MTR do you?

[Bornadog]

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Well, I was ridiculed on this forum when I suggested that Johnson should retire. It was The Coon Dog from memory.

The problem really lies with the Football Administration Department, (or how-so-ever they are called), they don't have half a brain between the lot of them. I'd like to know their names so that I could contact them. We look forward to this department making proactive and positive decisions. Instead they have just been making a series of dumb ones. This not only includes keeping aged players on the list but also by selecting proven dud players, selecting players who should be dropped because of poor form and non-selection of young guns from Willi. Also, by keeping those aged and dud players we missed out on recruiting players like Barlow, Stijk, Podsiadly and others.

Look at the aged players they started the year with - Akre, Johnno, Eagles, Hall. A recipe for failure. Johnno and Eagles will play a good game every now and again, but that's just not good enough. (But good enough for their supporters to be kept sucked in). At their age they have lost the majority of their skills. Hall is the only one I would keep and I would only keep him for this year. There are just so many good players in the Willi side who should have racked up many more games by now.

I'd also like to know who or what is keeping Patrick Rose out of the side. I know he has Rookie status but surely he would be many times better than Johnno. Is it Johnno keeping him out, because of his own greed or selfishness?

Johnno is not Bambi. He is a selfish player who uses the captaincy and the good will of the supporters to play on way beyond his use-by date. What is more, Johnson knows that he has lost his skills, he knows that he is injured, he knows that he doesn't deserve his place in the team.

If you think that Johnno is in our best 22 then I think you have been sucked in. If you think that Johnno will take a good opposition player then you think that opposition coaches don't do their homework and are silly enough to think that Johnno is worth it.

Reasons that will make the premiership harder to win.
1. Johnson allowed to play on beyond use-by date.

Johnno deserves nothing. The club owes him nothing. The club owes me and another 30,000 supporters a premiership. That's their first duty.

Well lucky your not the coach and part of the Dumb football department, otherwise we would not be top four, but rather bottom four.

Read this.

http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?t=8048

[Ghost Dog]

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These are all questions that should not be asked about the captain of a hopeful premeirship team. The only upside for Johnno's defence is if he were to retire tomorrow, who would take his spot?

I have to admit, as much as I love J, this is a pretty good point. The fact that there is so much discussion speaks for itself. But who will replace him at this end of the season?
I can't see him beating Harry O or Harry Taylor or Scarlet more than 5 times out of 10.
He has, however, been playing some good footy and I think we really needed a steady captain. Anyway, look at Tom Harley, or Maxwell. Captains are often not the best players on the field.

[Missing-Dog]

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It is simple can someone name a forward who played better on Saturday night. Our midfield was smashed and our players could barely run. Apparently that is all the fault of Brad Johnson. He seemed to be pretty good the week before against Adelaide (and against the Roos) and he's our only lead-up forward with Murph playing down back and no Grant. But apparently one bad game (in a team that was smashed) after steadily building form and he's a liability. Alot of knee's being jerked around here.

[LostDoggy]

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I think Johnno needs to play deep. Very deep...

[Mantis]

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A relevant question to ask is if Josh Hill had put up the same numbers as Johnno did on the weekend what would our reaction be?

I would think that we would be baying for blood.

Johnno had 9 disposals, 6 marks, 0 goals, 0 goal assists & 0 tackles = 12 SC points.

In Josh's last game against Adelaide he had:

6 disposals, 3 marks, 1 goal, 0 goal assists & 5 tackles = 44 SC points.