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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #76
    Re: Round 21 Team

    Originally posted by chef
    Should we wait for the team to run out on the field before we start bagging out the MC for dropping Everitt, Roughead etc etc?
    Yep am thinking that to Chef

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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #77
      Re: Round 21 Team

      I'm one of few, but I'm not bothered by Everitt's omission...he did OK last week, but I just don't see what the fuss is about him - the MC obviously have their issues, and I'll defer to them... Roughy going out surprised me the most, I'm hopeful he's in as a late change. Eagle and Hahn? Hmm...
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • Doc26
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2009
        • 3087

        #78
        Re: Round 21 Team

        Originally posted by Mantis
        Goodes - no way.

        Who else could he go to? Remembering that he played mainly on a first gamer last week.
        Two direct match ups for Dre this week could be Josh Kennedy and/or Gary Rohan or should read could have been Josh Kennedy and/or Gary Rohan. I think he offers more flexibility than the MC give him credit for and would not be limited to just these two more simplistic match ups.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15445

          #79
          Re: Round 21 Team

          Originally posted by FrediKanoute
          I don't see the issue in playing him on Goodes......if anything setting him a task....an easily measurable task like break even at least on a guy like Goodes will probably bring the best out of him.

          In regards "Who else could he go to?" I think the problem with that kind of thinking is that it takes away from him any incentive to actually play well to retain his spot in the team if he's going to be dropped for match up reasons......

          Fact is if you listed the 22 that went out last week down a page and rated them from best to worst Everitt would be a heck of a lot closer to the number 1 position on the list than a number of other guys who have retained their spots...ie Eagleton. I don't for one moment profess to know the inner workings of our footy club, I don't know whether Everitt was set a task last week and failed to deliver on that task. What I do know though is that dropping a guy who played well purely for match up reasons is cr*p and does absolutely nothing to incentivise performance.
          I have no problems with those views, infact I agree with you.

          Shame that it seems that the MC don't seem to follow your (our) way of thinking.

          I guess we will see with performances over the next month (not just this week) if we have headed down the right path.

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          • DOG GOD
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2007
            • 6544

            #80
            Re: Round 21 Team

            Originally posted by Mantis
            When was this best 22 decided, at the start of the year or this week?
            Personally, imo Mantis i think the MC rate their best 22 and will go with that if they are brought to a head over form.

            Ex: They are aware of what Hahn COULD do and rate that over Everitt's CAN do.

            I might be totally wrong, but some of the decisions over the last few years have left me scratching my head.
            I will never see #16 the same!!

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6932

              #81
              Re: Round 21 Team

              Originally posted by FrediKanoute
              I don't see the issue in playing him on Goodes......if anything setting him a task....an easily measurable task like break even at least on a guy like Goodes will probably bring the best out of him.

              In regards "Who else could he go to?" I think the problem with that kind of thinking is that it takes away from him any incentive to actually play well to retain his spot in the team if he's going to be dropped for match up reasons......

              Fact is if you listed the 22 that went out last week down a page and rated them from best to worst Everitt would be a heck of a lot closer to the number 1 position on the list than a number of other guys who have retained their spots...ie Eagleton. I don't for one moment profess to know the inner workings of our footy club, I don't know whether Everitt was set a task last week and failed to deliver on that task. What I do know though is that dropping a guy who played well purely for match up reasons is cr*p and does absolutely nothing to incentivise performance.
              Spot on.

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3826

                #82
                Re: Round 21 Team

                Originally posted by Mantis
                I have no problems with those views, infact I agree with you.

                Shame that it seems that the MC don't seem to follow your (our) way of thinking.

                I guess we will see with performances over the next month (not just this week) if we have headed down the right path.
                Agree....always happy to concede if we win a flag!

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15445

                  #83
                  Re: Round 21 Team

                  Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                  Agree....always happy to concede if we win a flag!
                  And if we don't we will just head down the Richmond path and trash the joint.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66700

                    #84
                    Re: Round 21 Team

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    But with Hahn coming back where is Jones going to play? Our forwardline looks top heavy with Hall, Johnno, Jones, Hahn and Grant in the team.
                    Lake will be out, so Williams at Full back and Hahn CHB.
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                    • The Adelaide Connection
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2780

                      #85
                      Re: Round 21 Team

                      So who are the two emergencies that travelled with the team?

                      Also is there a possibility that sickness may have played our hand a bit with some of the perplexing selections/non-selections?

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #86
                        Re: Round 21 Team

                        really surprised with the selections, but if they win, all is forgiven!

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                        • EasternWest
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10002

                          #87
                          Re: Round 21 Team

                          Good to see the Everitt love here. Poor kid has done nothing wrong.

                          I think Mantis raises some good points about his actual position, but it must be so hard for him to keep his head up.

                          I'd imagine he'd request a trade this year, much as it pains me to consider.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • Missing-Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3102

                            #88
                            Re: Round 21 Team

                            Two questions I have that are hopefully more constructive than complaining about who is in and who is out.

                            Firstly, did anyone see Mitchplay at Willi last weekend? If so how was he moving, did he look slow or has he benefitted from his rest?

                            And secondly, generally does anyone think that with Harbrow coming back and the way the teams have been selected will Murph be moved back to the forward line? He has been named on the HFF.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #89
                              Re: Round 21 Team

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Small ground. I find it a bit surprising to drop Everitt though who could have given some support to Hudson.
                              Yes, good point. I guess I didn't think about the Everitt omission yesterday, but it is surprising too. Perhaps we will see some late changes........

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                              • always right
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 4189

                                #90
                                Re: Round 21 Team

                                I'm concerned. At this stage of the season you expect we would be trying to settle on the best line-up for the finals.

                                I'm still relatively upbeat about our chances going into September but if this ends up being the line-up for the match against Collingwood, we are going to be slaughtered. That forwardline will spend all day chasing the backsides of Pie defenders.

                                In my view our season turned around when Johnno, Aker and Hahn were out of the side injured/suspended. With the introduction of blokes like Grant and Wood, the move of Murphy to the backline, and the introduction of Roughead we looked so much quicker and vibrant. This week's selections are a significant step backwards IMO.
                                I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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