Why Haven't these Guys got a Jumper

[LostDoggy]

Re: Why Haven't these Guys got a Jumper

Why the Markovic bashing?

Wasn't J-Pod meant to be too slow for AFL?
Wasn't Barlow not ever going to be good enough, fast enough for AFL?

Us nobody's have any right to judge. He was recruited as a mature body that if needed could come straight into the team, rather than throw Bouman or Mulligan into the deep end.

It might be a recruiting error, but IIRC the ABC commentators on the weekend say that he has been one of the best defenders in the VFL this season.

As I've asked in another thread, if we needed a tall back urgently this week, who would you choose from: Markovic, Bouman or Mulligan.

I know I would prefer to see Markovic ahead of the other 2.

[The Coon Dog]

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Us nobody's have any right to judge.

This is a forum where we all have a right to discuss, pontificate, give our opinion/s & if we deem it, judge on what we know or see.

[soupman]

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Nawrocki, it isn't Markovic bashing. It's merely stating his limitations as a player and why he isn't getting a game.

Firstly, at whose expense do you play him at? Our defence is the strongest part of our side. It's experienced, attacking, versatile and has good chemistry. Why disrupt that? Also, Markovic whilst potentially capable looks as if he can only play one role, which is currently taken by a certain Brian Lake, who goes alright. We couldn't afford to play Markovic because he is too slow to play on anyone but that main key forward, and would be exposed by any of the other forwards. Markovic is insurance for Lake.

Hooper was very close to selection when he was elevated to the senior list, however since then his form for Williamstown has been so so. He is probably the one with the biggest case however as he would fulfill a need (small crumbing forward). He's just suffered from poor timing with form.

Rose is Brad Johnson. A small forward who plays tall, doesn't crumb and atm isn't capable of going through the midfield. His first half of the year had indifferent form and only now with Johnson and Higgins being out he might get a look in. Having said that though his inability to act as that midfielder might hurt us if we keep the likes of Hahn and Jones in the side, as it limits our rotations, especially with a ruckman returning this week.

As I've asked in another thread, if we needed a tall back urgently this week, who would you choose from: Markovic, Bouman or Mulligan.

I know I would prefer to see Markovic ahead of the other 2.

This is why Markovic is on the list.

[Bornadog]

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Nawrocki, it isn't Markovic bashing. It's merely stating his limitations as a player and why he isn't getting a game.

Firstly, at whose expense do you play him at? Our defence is the strongest part of our side. It's experienced, attacking, versatile and has good chemistry. Why disrupt that? Also, Markovic whilst potentially capable looks as if he can only play one role, which is currently taken by a certain Brian Lake, who goes alright. We couldn't afford to play Markovic because he is too slow to play on anyone but that main key forward, and would be exposed by any of the other forwards. Markovic is insurance for Lake.

Hooper was very close to selection when he was elevated to the senior list, however since then his form for Williamstown has been so so. He is probably the one with the biggest case however as he would fulfill a need (small crumbing forward). He's just suffered from poor timing with form.

Rose is Brad Johnson. A small forward who plays tall, doesn't crumb and atm isn't capable of going through the midfield. His first half of the year had indifferent form and only now with Johnson and Higgins being out he might get a look in. Having said that though his inability to act as that midfielder might hurt us if we keep the likes of Hahn and Jones in the side, as it limits our rotations, especially with a ruckman returning this week.



This is why Markovic is on the list.

Summed up well, end thread.

[Greystache]

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Why the Markovic bashing?

Wasn't J-Pod meant to be too slow for AFL?
Wasn't Barlow not ever going to be good enough, fast enough for AFL?

Us nobody's have any right to judge. He was recruited as a mature body that if needed could come straight into the team, rather than throw Bouman or Mulligan into the deep end.

It might be a recruiting error, but IIRC the ABC commentators on the weekend say that he has been one of the best defenders in the VFL this season.

As I've asked in another thread, if we needed a tall back urgently this week, who would you choose from: Markovic, Bouman or Mulligan.

I know I would prefer to see Markovic ahead of the other 2.

Perhaps the people making a JUDGEMENT on Markovic are doing so having watched him play numerous times live and doubt his ability to play at AFL level, rather than based on a comment they may have heard a commentator say on ABC. Just a thought!

In answer to your question, I would rely on Lake and Williams and promote none of them.

[BulldogBelle]

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Some of the guys commenting here, like Greystache and Soupaman like to dream up negatives about these 3 players. (Slow, slow, small etc).

What about writing them up as positive, you guys are acting like those dills who are members of the match committee.

The big positive about Petals is that he gets lots of goals on the forward line. Now I'm sure you two guys can write something really positive about him and make him get selected. Its just a change of mindset. Nothing facetious either thanks.

[Bornadog]

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Some of the guys commenting here, like Greystache and Soupaman like to dream up negatives about these 3 players. (Slow, slow, small etc).

What about writing them up as positive, you guys are acting like those dills who are members of the match committee.

The big positive about Petals is that he gets lots of goals on the forward line. Now I'm sure you two guys can write something really positive about him and make him get selected. Its just a change of mindset. Nothing facetious either thanks.

Greystache, Soupman are just telling the truth.

Delist next year will be Markovic, Rose. Hooper maybe.

Have you ever been to a Willi match? VFL isnot even half the std of AFL.

The only dill here is the one calling the MC one.

[Throughandthrough]

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Now I'm sure you two guys can write something really positive about him and make him get selected. .

Jeez we really are stuffed if the Woofsters have a say on selection at the dogs!

[Mofra]

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Delist next year will be Markovic, Rose. Hooper maybe.

Disagree with Hooper, he's got limitations but he's smart and that is something that can't be taught. I think there's enough to work with to turn him into a player.

[mighty_west]

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Disagree with Hooper, he's got limitations but he's smart and that is something that can't be taught. I think there's enough to work with to turn him into a player.

The MC may also disagree, considering they elevated him 6 or 7 weeks ago.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Disagree with Hooper, he's got limitations but he's smart and that is something that can't be taught. I think there's enough to work with to turn him into a player.

Agreed.

He's still only very young. Needs to maybe drop a couple of kgs and get fitter - but I can see him playing a role in the future. The football world is obsessed with 6ft athletes, but there's still a place for pure, smart and tough footballers.

Every time I've seen Hooper play, I've liked what I've seen. He does a lot of things 'right'.

[mighty_west]

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Agreed.

He's still only very young. Needs to maybe drop a couple of kgs and get fitter - but I can see him playing a role in the future. The football world is obsessed with 6ft athletes, but there's still a place for pure, smart and tough footballers.

Every time I've seen Hooper play, I've liked what I've seen. He does a lot of things 'right'.

To me, he just has a bit of the Paul Chapmans about him, although a shorter version, no one could ever question his endeavour or courage, quite speedy as well given his thick frame.

[Bornadog]

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Disagree with Hooper, he's got limitations but he's smart and that is something that can't be taught. I think there's enough to work with to turn him into a player.

Thats why I said maybe as I am not sold yet. Did Mark Stevens say he was a chance to play this week?

[chef]

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Thats why I said maybe as I am not sold yet. Did Mark Stevens say he was a chance to play this week?

'With five senior players missing for Saturday night's match against Essendon, the Dogs' smallest player, Andrew Hooper, could make his debut.

Hooper, a 172cm goalsneak, was promoted from the rookie list this season and has impressed for Williamstown in the VFL.'

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dirty-day-for-dogs/story-e6frf9jf-1225909150402

[Bornadog]

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'With five senior players missing for Saturday night's match against Essendon, the Dogs' smallest player, Andrew Hooper, could make his debut.

Hooper, a 172cm goalsneak, was promoted from the rookie list this season and has impressed for Williamstown in the VFL.'


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...-1225909150402

The dilemma is should we play a player for his first game in round 22 but most likely won't play in the finals or do we bring in a Hill who has played 54 games and could sneak a few goals for us? I would prefer to give Hill another chance.