Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 18047

    #31
    Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

    Originally posted by becmatty
    Is Johnno a chance of returning?!?
    We all love Johnno but if he comes back at 70% fitness, it will put his teammates under severe pressure.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Missing-Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 3102

      #32
      Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

      The last time we played the Pies we almost pinched it in the last quarter by making Maxwell accountable. If we are to have any chance this week we must do the same. Our defensive pressure in our forward 50 has to be better than it has been all year. For this reason I think the MC will stick with Mitch, but play him up forward this week as a defensive forward on Maxwell.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44706

        #33
        Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

        I think Roughead will come up OK so I would only make the change for him and Minson if there is a real doubt about hi. His ability to go forward is what we need.

        Higgins to come in and Wood and Johnson under consideration.
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        • Jasper
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2009
          • 1265

          #34
          Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

          Assuming Griffen, Johnno, Lake and Williams are fit enough:

          Out
          Roughead - injured
          Everitt - ordinary, makes us top heavy
          Moles - not good enough
          Jones - needs a break and not quite ready yet

          In
          Minson (because he is fit, and Roughy is not, they are too close in value to the team to play the injured one)
          Johnson (because the team needs his leadership and positivity, he must play deep.)
          Wood (adds speed and release Harbrow upfield)
          Higgins (class - if he is fit, massive if)

          Problem I see with this team is we have way too many partly fit players. Not sure what you do about this,

          Think that one of Jones, Hahn or Everitt stays in, mainly because Williams and Lake may need some cover if they break down during the game next week. I would imagine that Hahn will stay in.. This would mean a smaller type would have to be dropped, Moles is perhaps first in line if this is the case. (Personally, really liked Addison's game, and while he isn't in our best 22, a lockdown forward becomes even more vital if chasing machines, Johnno and Higgins play.)
          Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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          • Go_Dogs
            Hall of Fame
            • Jan 2007
            • 10166

            #35
            Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
            I strongly agree with the dropping of Hahn calls but I think there is no chance of it happening.

            Eade and the MC love him and they love who they love and have very little time for guys they see in the too hard basket.
            The problem is, with Morris out we really have no other option.

            Between Cloke, Dawes and a resting ruck, we'll need Lake, Williams and say Hahn to cover them. I'm not sure what other options we have that inspire any more confidence? It's a worry, but he needs to squeeze out a few good games to finish the year off and give us a chance.



            For me:

            In: Minson, Higgins

            Out: Roughead, Jones

            I would have preferred to keep Jones in, but I think we need to play Everitt forward(and back at times) with Grant and Hall this week, so he gets squeezed out. We also need some more run.

            I'm happy to give Johnson another week off as Collingwood is the one side who he is most exposed against, if that makes sense.

            If we had some more form runners there may be another change I'd make, but we don't.
            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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            • G-Mo77
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Apr 2007
              • 9877

              #36
              Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

              I'm going to do the same thing Kelvinator. Assuming everyone is fit from yesterday's squad I think we'll go like this:

              In: Higgins, Wood, Minson
              Out: Jones, Roughead, Everitt/Hahn

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              • DOG GOD
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2007
                • 6557

                #37
                Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                So we're gunna have Higgins, Wood (back from injury), Lake, Griff, Ward, Williams (and maybe Johnno) all playing under duress. That will be something to look fwd to
                I will never see #16 the same!!

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                • DOG GOD
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 6557

                  #38
                  Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                  Personally i dont care who is in or out, as long as we have 3 players who will tag Maxwell, OBrien and Shaw out of the match. Obrien has been tagged the last 2 games and has given no run whatsoever. If the MC lets him run free i will call for Eade's (and their's) heads.
                  I will never see #16 the same!!

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #39
                    Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                    OBrien is more a worry then Maxwell is. Need to stop him

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                    • Bumper Bulldogs
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2978

                      #40
                      Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                      Going to be a tough one this week, The pies will be pumping as they lost last week also.

                      I have no doubt we can beat them but we need to be focused and on our best.

                      For me I don't like Hahn in the back line, thought he got beaten last night and played on guys that have only had a couple on games and light bodies.

                      As others have stated i thought that Everitt just had poor disposal and poor decision making and that stupid free lick for the Jb to the guts just showed he was not witched on.

                      For I hope Williams and Griffen are fit and Roughy pulls up well.

                      Next week I would play Roughy ahead of Will (Only if fit) based on his ability to get around the ground and push forward.

                      Outs
                      Everitt - Sorry I like him but he just blew it and i wouldn't be looking at him at all for the rest of the year
                      Hahn - Didn't show that his experience and body size is more important than youth and enthusiasm, time to give it away also.
                      Jones - Just think for team balance he makes way.

                      In's
                      Higgins - Just need his finish and hoping he is really fit and will apply pressure when we don't have the ball.
                      Wood - straight in as we need his pace and run and carry from the back line.
                      Johno - As captain he needs to come in and show what it takes in big games, "Only if fit"

                      B: Hargrave, Lake, Gilbee
                      HB: Murphy, Williams, Wood
                      C: Harbrow, Cross, Picken
                      HF: Johno, Grant, Gia
                      F: Higgins, Hall, Addison
                      R: Hudson, Boyd, Griffen
                      Int: Roughy, Moles, Eagleton, Ward

                      For me looking at the Pies you need to pressure the ball carrier so runners will be needed. Fit runner that is. I think that the attached side is still good enough to knock them off next week.
                      BB.

                      Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #41
                        Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                        Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                        Going to be a tough one this week, The pies will be pumping as they lost last week also.

                        I have no doubt we can beat them but we need to be focused and on our best.

                        For me I don't like Hahn in the back line, thought he got beaten last night and played on guys that have only had a couple on games and light bodies.

                        As others have stated i thought that Everitt just had poor disposal and poor decision making and that stupid free lick for the Jb to the guts just showed he was not witched on.

                        For I hope Williams and Griffen are fit and Roughy pulls up well.

                        Next week I would play Roughy ahead of Will (Only if fit) based on his ability to get around the ground and push forward.

                        Outs
                        Everitt - Sorry I like him but he just blew it and i wouldn't be looking at him at all for the rest of the year
                        Hahn - Didn't show that his experience and body size is more important than youth and enthusiasm, time to give it away also.
                        Jones - Just think for team balance he makes way.

                        In's
                        Higgins - Just need his finish and hoping he is really fit and will apply pressure when we don't have the ball.
                        Wood - straight in as we need his pace and run and carry from the back line.
                        Johno - As captain he needs to come in and show what it takes in big games, "Only if fit"

                        B: Hargrave, Lake, Gilbee
                        HB: Murphy, Williams, Wood
                        C: Harbrow, Cross, Picken
                        HF: Johno, Grant, Gia
                        F: Higgins, Hall, Addison
                        R: Hudson, Boyd, Griffen
                        Int: Roughy, Moles, Eagleton, Ward

                        For me looking at the Pies you need to pressure the ball carrier so runners will be needed. Fit runner that is. I think that the attached side is still good enough to knock them off next week.
                        So who plays on Brown?

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7379

                          #42
                          Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          After last week's debacle, I'm not sure the MC would be prepared to pull the trigger on a part time ruck set up again.
                          Not against Jolley.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • Before I Die
                            Senior Player
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1032

                            #43
                            Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                            Originally posted by gogriff
                            Collingwood are the side we first used the part-time ruck experiment against, and successfully. We may need the extra run against their extended midfield rotation, if Roughead is sore then perhaps Wood can come in for him and Everitt can do some ruckwork
                            That was last season when their number one ruckman was Fraser. This season Fraser can't get a game because they have Jolly with L. brown as back-up. One of Roughead or Minson must play.
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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7379

                              #44
                              Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              So who plays on Brown?
                              Out of the team listed, Wood would have to do that job.

                              If they want to go big up forward in a final I say we let them. Without the run of Cooney through the middle we need to generate things from further back - need to take a couple of chances in selection and get some real run into the side.

                              Backs: Eagleton - Lake - Wood - Harbrow

                              - Lake designated loose man. Collingwood are a bit predictable going forward and if they push an extra tall deep forward to match up on us that suits. Stick Eagleton on someone with instructions to break to the opposite side of the ground even in 50-50 situations. Collingwood are defensively oriented - I BET they start locking him down if he gets some early possession.

                              Half-Backs: Wood - Williams - Murphy - Gilbee

                              - Murphy designated loose. Collingwood will HAVE to match him up...either Gilbee or Murphy will end up without an opponent or Collingwood end up with an 8 man forward line. Good. Crowd the hell out of it.

                              Wings: Cross - Ward

                              - Contested ball winners. Defensive release point must be wide on the MCG. Rotate Moles through these spots.

                              Ruck: Hudson - Roughead.

                              - Hudson takes Jolley at ALL times.

                              Mids: Boyd - Griffen - Picken

                              - Picken takes Pendlebury. Boyd takes Swan. Key match-ups of the game.

                              Forwards: Higgins - Hall - Grant - Jones

                              - Hall plays on Maxwell. Presti will try and take him - awesome - he beats Hall every time anyway so let's use this to our advantage and shut Maxwell down.
                              - Higgins plays on O'Brien - we kick it to him EVERY time.
                              - Grant plays on Shaw.
                              - Jones stays deep and does NOT MOVE.

                              I am not interested in allowing Collingwood to dictate terms in any way. We have a double chance - if ever there was a chance to try some things out and mix it up, it is right now. I want them to react, I want their coaches making moves that they haven't had to make all year, I want their players out of position and wondering what happens next...break their habits up and roll the dice.
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #45
                                Re: Qualifying Final - WOOF Selection Table

                                Hahn got some easy kicks filling in the hole in the backline last night. What he didn't do was win the contested ball. He falls over, runs past the ball and fumbles.....and against Collingwood you have to win the contest and stop the ball getting out. Players who are slow or who easily give up the contest shouldn't be played. Addison makes a better contest and should get a go before Hahn.

                                If Hahn is to get a game, then I would play him as a dummy forward only.

                                I would play Everett in the backline and tell him to run straight at the ball. In fact, we could tell a few of our players to run straight at the ball. We have a few who are running around the ball. Or all jumping into a contest instead of having players manning up outside the pack, defensive side of packs etc. This comes down to getting enough players to do the hard yards of getting over to assist their mates, each with a role to do at a contest. Lake seems to think fullback is about deft touches of the ball and then going to ground.

                                We need more full blooded attack on the footy, more players standing up in a contest, more talk and more players running to assist. Won't matter who we pick if we don't get these right.

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