Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 17921

    #46
    Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

    Originally posted by Scorlibo


    14 - Eagleton: He's selected as a linebreaking midfielder so not a like comparison. Moles breathing down his neck
    15 - Johnson: He probably shouldn't be playing either but he's not going to be dropped
    16 - Addison: Form hasn't been great and should make way if Morris is fit
    17 - Wood: Destroyed TDL who has been in good form. Definitely played a more effective game than Mitch
    18 - Minson: Ruckman
    19 - Lake: Carrying, but critical to our structure
    20 - Williams: Carrying, but critical to our structure
    21 - Hooper: First gamer. Small forward so not really a like comparison
    22 - Grant: Overwhelmed to this point but has an attribute in short supply in our forward 50 - pace
    Most of the above players are either irrelevant comparisons or required components of our structure.

    As far as Mitch's place in the team (based on your rankings), he was our second worst mid-sized/third tall with the only 'like' player who had a similar game to him being Johnson (though he was much better this week). We all know he isn't going to be omitted, therefore Mitch is first in line.

    We need a third tall who can chase and harass, split the St Kilda defence and actually clunk a few. Mitch has the mobility of a sub par KPP in a mid sized forwards body. A few blocks here and there aren't enough.

    To say he was critical in the 2nd / 3rd qtr fightback is selling the efforts of Boyd, Murphy, Cross, Gia etc way too short and makes you come across as a close Hahn relative.

    Liam Jones must come in.
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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15322

      #47
      Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

      In: Morris, Moles, Jones

      Out: Hooper, Hahn, Eagleton

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      • BulldogBelle
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 5284

        #48
        Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

        Originally posted by comrade
        Most of the above players are either irrelevant comparisons or required components of our structure.

        As far as Mitch's place in the team (based on your rankings), he was our second worst mid-sized/third tall with the only 'like' player who had a similar game to him being Johnson (though he was much better this week). We all know he isn't going to be omitted, therefore Mitch is first in line.

        We need a third tall who can chase and harass, split the St Kilda defence and actually clunk a few. Mitch has the mobility of a sub par KPP in a mid sized forwards body. A few blocks here and there aren't enough.

        To say he was critical in the 2nd / 3rd qtr fightback is selling the efforts of Boyd, Murphy, Cross, Gia etc way too short and makes you come across as a close Hahn relative.

        Liam Jones must come in.
        Great post Comrade. You are spot on. Seemingly we are the ONLY top 4 team that has a predominately "Best 22" attitude to selection, and it needs to change. Hoopers selection was a great example of what we should be doing. Certainly not "best 22" at this stage, but best small pacy forward pocket that that play a very specific roll.

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        • The Underdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2007
          • 6801

          #49
          Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

          In: Morris, Moles
          Out: Hahn, Hooper

          My reasoning is simple.
          I'm not a huge fan of Moles but we are already carrying Johnson as a defensive liability when the opposition are moving the ball downfield and he's not going to be dropped. We can't afford Hahn as well. I think we need fit runners and while Moles was average in the Willy game, he's clearly the only midfielder capable of coming into the team at this point.
          I think we need the extra flexibility and run.
          I need to watch the game back again but our lack of depth means Eagleton gets the chance to fail again in a big game next week. Throwing Hooper in against the Saints in a Prelim is probably too big an ask.
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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 17921

            #50
            Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

            Originally posted by The Underdog
            In: Morris, Moles
            Out: Hahn, Hooper

            My reasoning is simple.
            I'm not a huge fan of Moles but we are already carrying Johnson as a defensive liability when the opposition are moving the ball downfield and he's not going to be dropped. We can't afford Hahn as well. I think we need fit runners and while Moles was average in the Willy game, he's clearly the only midfielder capable of coming into the team at this point.
            I think we need the extra flexibility and run.
            I need to watch the game back again but our lack of depth means Eagleton gets the chance to fail again in a big game next week. Throwing Hooper in against the Saints in a Prelim is probably too big an ask.
            Good reasoning and I'd be comfortable if those were the selections.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15322

              #51
              Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

              Originally posted by comrade
              Good reasoning and I'd be comfortable if those were the selections.
              We need more height & strength in attack than what those selections will give us.

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17921

                #52
                Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                Originally posted by Mantis
                We need more height & strength in attack than what those selections will give us.
                Jones can clunk marks and would help to split the defensive unit but we also need as much running power as possible, which means we yet again give Eagleton a get out of jail card.

                If the MC keep Eagleton (which is likely), who goes out for Jones if Hahn is out for Morris, and Hooper is out for Moles?
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15322

                  #53
                  Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                  Originally posted by comrade
                  Jones can clunk marks and would help to split the defensive unit but we also need as much running power as possible, which means we yet again give Eagleton a get out of jail card.

                  If the MC keep Eagleton (which is likely), who goes out for Jones if Hahn is out for Morris, and Hooper is out for Moles?
                  Minson? We need to take a risk and I believe Jones must play.

                  A forwardline of Hall & Grant as our tall forwards will get torn apart by the St.Kilda defence.

                  Anyway Eagleton shouldn't play. He has been woeful in our 2 most recent games against St.Kilda and his field kicking was shoddy at best last night.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44307

                    #54
                    Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                    Is anyone concerned that Grants 2 finals performances have been very poor?
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                    • EasternWest
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9993

                      #55
                      Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Is anyone concerned that Grants 2 finals performances have been very poor?
                      The biggest concern for me is that Kennelly ran him ragged. It was a great move from Eade to switch Gilbee on to him late in the game.

                      It's been a long year for Jarrad, and I think it's catching up to him. He looked better in the second half and I'd imagine they'll keep the faith with him. Would like to see him get his hands on the ball early next week. Looks like he's very conscious of the fact that it's finals footy, rather than just applying himself to doing what he's done well all year.
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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15322

                        #56
                        Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Is anyone concerned that Grants 2 finals performances have been very poor?
                        Yep, it's a massive concern. He just looks lost out there at present.

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                        • The Coon Dog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7578

                          #57
                          Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Yep, it's a massive concern. He just looks lost out there at present.
                          Almost overawed.
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                          • ReLoad
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1450

                            #58
                            Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                            No Change.

                            Willy was rubbish today, nobody on our list even remotely pretended they wanted to be selected for the seniors.

                            Its pretty obvious we have some trade bait flying around at Willy.

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                            • mighty_west
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3414

                              #59
                              Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                              Originally posted by ReLoad
                              No Change.

                              Willy was rubbish today, nobody on our list even remotely pretended they wanted to be selected for the seniors.

                              Its pretty obvious we have some trade bait flying around at Willy.
                              You don't want Dale Morris back in?

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                              • The Coon Dog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7578

                                #60
                                Re: Preliminary Final - WOOF Selection Table

                                Originally posted by ReLoad
                                No Change.Willy was rubbish today, nobody on our list even remotely pretended they wanted to be selected for the seniors.
                                I thought Jones was OK.

                                Originally posted by ReLoad
                                Its pretty obvious we have some trade bait flying around at Willy.
                                That's a problem too, likely to get SFA for the lot of 'em.
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