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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #61
    Re: Embracing the past

    Originally posted by DaDruid
    I was raised on a diet of a red hoop on a white hoop on a royal blue jumper,
    But I love my team regardless of what they wear, hessian sacks would not turn me off, but pink lycra would seriously question my faith.
    The West Village Bulldogs.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      #62
      Re: Embracing the past

      Originally posted by dfa4pm
      I'm sure you recognise I was taking the mickey.

      FWIW I'm totally with you. I don't mean to wander too far off thread, but I wonder if anyone here has ever had an encounter with CG that didn't meet expectations?

      He exceeded my expectations the first time I met him. Does that count?
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #63
        Re: Embracing the past

        Originally posted by Lantern
        The West Village Bulldogs.
        There's a thought. Who would be who? New thread here! Thanks Lantern!

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #64
          Re: Embracing the past

          I'm all for the “Robodog” as some call it, on our logo and marketing. I might be biased, but I think it's the best logo in the AFL, along with Essendon's and Collingwood's as close seconds, as it's “marketable” and very, very identifiable. As a brand (and don't be turned off by that word, even people are brands) the Robodog is spotted and associated immediately. It is never mistaken for anything other than the Bulldogs logo, and is highly visible from all distances.

          On the flip side, I don't think it belongs on our jumper, at least, not where it is. I'd like to see a return to the '54 hoops, with the Robodog logo at the base of the player numbers.

          One side note: If we embrace the current “retro” trend of “acknowledging the past”, when the trend turns to looking forward instead of back, will changing the jumper again from the '54 design, for example, be more painful and difficult to garner support for? Is a reversion a one-way street?

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44316

            #65
            Re: Embracing the past

            Originally posted by BornAScragger
            I'm all for the “Robodog” as some call it, on our logo and marketing. I might be biased, but I think it's the best logo in the AFL, along with Essendon's and Collingwood's as close seconds, as it's “marketable” and very, very identifiable. As a brand (and don't be turned off by that word, even people are brands) the Robodog is spotted and associated immediately. It is never mistaken for anything other than the Bulldogs logo, and is highly visible from all distances.

            On the flip side, I don't think it belongs on our jumper, at least, not where it is. I'd like to see a return to the '54 hoops, with the Robodog logo at the base of the player numbers.
            The dog emblem in itself isn't a bad one but I agree that it doesn't really belong on the jumper for all games.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • The Pie Man
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2008
              • 3498

              #66
              Re: Embracing the past

              ^^^^

              Further to this - similar to the St Kilda & Collingwood format, would we like the logo to appear near the sponsor badge, and just have hoops through the middle?
              Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #67
                Re: Embracing the past

                Might be going off a tangent here.
                But the club has asked the supporters to do a survey on its website regarding not necessarily the club's brand and image, but how brand affect us everyday, and if we notice different images for different companies and organisations.
                By the vibe of the questions, I think they're trying to see if the supporters would like to change the brand of the club.
                Anyone else do the survey?

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #68
                  Re: Embracing the past

                  Originally posted by B-RadBulldog
                  Might be going off a tangent here.
                  But the club has asked the supporters to do a survey on its website regarding not necessarily the club's brand and image, but how brand affect us everyday, and if we notice different images for different companies and organisations.
                  By the vibe of the questions, I think they're trying to see if the supporters would like to change the brand of the club.
                  Anyone else do the survey?
                  I did the survey. They said it was “brief”, it was 40 bloody questions, but I didn't mind so much, thought they were asking important questions, especially IRT social media, in which area we are years behind other clubs.

                  Originally posted by The Pie Man
                  ^^^^

                  Further to this - similar to the St Kilda & Collingwood format, would we like the logo to appear near the sponsor badge, and just have hoops through the middle?
                  I like that idea, but I don't see that our club, in our position, would ever restrict the size of sponsor logos unless absolutely necessary. It's easier for Collingwood — the Bulldogs need to offer a sponsor an uncluttered area for their logo to stand out, further maximising the spend they can expect from a sponsor for that right. If their logo is relegated to a spot just beneath ours, might sour the deal.

                  In fact, if I remember right, didn't we get in trouble from the AFL for having the sponsor logo too large and had to re-do the design?

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11137

                    #69
                    Re: Embracing the past

                    Originally posted by BornAScragger
                    In fact, if I remember right, didn't we get in trouble from the AFL for having the sponsor logo too large and had to re-do the design?
                    Melbourne dobbed us in because we beat them to the Mission sponsorship. They also cut our lunch with regard to official involvement with the Australian Women's Football League, a relathionship that I recall Susan Alberti had a huge hand in fostering and developing in the first place.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #70
                      Re: Embracing the past

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Melbourne dobbed us in because we beat them to the Mission sponsorship. They also cut our lunch with regard to official involvement with the Australian Women's Football League, a relathionship that I recall Susan Alberti had a huge hand in fostering and developing in the first place.
                      All's fair in love and war... if we were too slow or inept to capitalise on the headstart of a significant personal relationship we only have ourselves to blame, just as no quarter was given in beating Melbourne to Mission. With the survival of the club at stake I hope we are desperate enough to land all our opportunities instead of complaining about others being more resourceful or better organised to take advantage of them.

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11137

                        #71
                        Re: Embracing the past

                        Originally posted by Lantern
                        All's fair in love and war... if we were too slow or inept to capitalise on the headstart of a significant personal relationship we only have ourselves to blame, just as no quarter was given in beating Melbourne to Mission. With the survival of the club at stake I hope we are desperate enough to land all our opportunities instead of complaining about others being more resourceful or better organised to take advantage of them.
                        I think in this case it wasn't as though we hadn't already secured the opportunity, but I think a little Demon behind the scenes skullduggery meant that they effectively bribed their way to the opportunity at our expense - happy to be corrected by those in the know.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #72
                          Re: Embracing the past

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          I think in this case it wasn't as though we hadn't already secured the opportunity, but I think a little Demon behind the scenes skullduggery meant that they effectively bribed their way to the opportunity at our expense - happy to be corrected by those in the know.
                          See "all's fair in love and war".

                          If it wasn't illegal per se, it was just resourcefulness. Unethical, perhaps, which is a more gray area than illegal, and I don't condone it, but hey, if we're going to be uber-ethical then we better advertise the fact that we're playing well above the line and use that as part of our competitive advantage rather than it just being a weight around our neck as others cheat their way around us.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #73
                            Re: Embracing the past

                            Originally posted by Lantern
                            See "all's fair in love and war".

                            If it wasn't illegal per se, it was just resourcefulness. Unethical, perhaps, which is a more gray area than illegal, and I don't condone it, but hey, if we're going to be uber-ethical then we better advertise the fact that we're playing well above the line and use that as part of our competitive advantage rather than it just being a weight around our neck as others cheat their way around us.
                            Yep, happens with every sales organisation in every part of the world.

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