Channel One Tonight - Year of the Dog Doco

[Greystache]

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This film also has to make you admire Chris Grant even more (if possible), he had an opportunity to leave a crumbling disaster of a club, for more money, and to go to what was supposed to the new superpower of the AFL, yet he stayed anyway.

[Ghost Dog]

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Really? What made you see it and what year did you see it?

Must have been 10 years ago now.98 or 99
I've always loved an underdog! It's a great movie.
I lived in the west (kingsville ) at the time, so just seemed like a good way to get into the community.

[anfo27]

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Its the first time i have seen that since it was released all those years ago. It brings back a lot of memories and makes me think what a great job Smorgan has done in his time as president. The difference is night and day.
Does anyone know how Shaun Baxter i doing these days?

[The Adelaide Connection]

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If anyone missed it or would just like to download it PM me and I will point you in the direction of a torrent.

I have mentioned this elsewhere, but I was formerly a Fitzroy supporter and was only young when they 'merged' but still had no love for the new Brisbane Lions entity. At a guess I think it was seeing this documentary (moreso than my love of Central Districts in the SANFL) that made me slowly gravitate to Footscray. Fantastic.

[chef]

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Its the first time i have seen that since it was released all those years ago. It brings back a lot of memories and makes me think what a great job Smorgan has done in his time as president. The difference is night and day.
Does anyone know how Shaun Baxter i doing these days?

He was on one of those reality TV shows like Gladiator not long ago and is 100% fit and healthy.

[LostDoggy]

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He was on one of those reality TV shows like Gladiator not long ago and is 100% fit and healthy.

Thanks Chef, I was also wondering that after watching a part of the doco last night. Good news indeed!

[Ozza]

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Great doco. I remember seeing it at the cinema (Highpoint, Maribyrnong of course!) in 1997. I reckon we had beaten Sydney in the first week of the finals - and it hit the cinemas between the first final and the prelim (in our week off).

Have it on DVD so have probably watched it 10 in full - but the Wallace "Spew up" speech, and Rick Kennedy's speech 50 times each.....

[Murphy'sLore]

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Wasn't that interested in AFL until I watched this Doco at the Astor. Have been a Bulldogs fan - member ever since.

Snap, Ghost Dog. This was the single experience that sucked me into the footy vortex.

(Though marrying into a Bulldogs-loving family didn't hurt either )

I saw it at the Sydney Film Festival, I think it might even have been the first public screening. I didn't even realise it was about football until it started, if I'd known I probably wouldn't have gone to the session! But I was completely gripped by the unfolding drama.

Perhaps, as a writer, I really needed to see the narrative potential of football before I could get hooked.

[Twodogs]

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We all loathe Wallace now but he really has to have credit..I don't think there are many transformations as breathtaking as that one and it was not due to incredible new recruits or draft picks, just getting the best out of the same class as 96 in the main.

I dont and I never have. Sure the manner of his departure was messy but it came at the right time and in my opinion Wallace is still one of the greats of our club. He gave 100% as a player and a coach over nearly 15 years.

As a player he never left anything on the field and as a coach he took as from an underacheiving self doubting group of individuals to a coherent successful team. We were good for him and he was good for us.


I hold Terry Wallace in very high regard and I'm grateful for the contribution he made to us.

[LostDoggy]

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I dont and I never have. Sure the manner of his departure was messy but it came at the right time and in my opinion Wallace is still one of the greats of our club. He gave 100% as a player and a coach over nearly 15 years.

As a player he never left anything on the field and as a coach he took as from an underacheiving self doubting group of individuals to a coherent successful team. We were good for him and he was good for us.


I hold Terry Wallace in very high regard and I'm grateful for the contribution he made to us.

This

[Bulldog Revolution]

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I'm not saying change wasn't needed, and that the result wasn't good for the club in the long run. I'm probably one of the few on here that rated the job Wallace did for us highly and can even understand walking away when he did.

What I'm saying about this film is it's obvious Wallis united the players to oust the coach. Scott Wynd was captain in 96 but he didn't led the push. I know quite a few senior players weren't particularly happy with what went on behind the scenes, and I think your casual observer who doesn't know Wallis particularly well would watch the film and see him as a backstabber.

Its obvious the doco has been cut to portray Wallis as one of the main behind the scenes men, but what is absolute clear from the doco is that Steve Wallis was one of the most respected senior players at the Club, and a key member leadership group, albeit not officially captain.

Watching Year of the Dogs makes me wonder how Alan Joyce was ever a senior coach, and when you look at that group of players and how much talent was there 1996 was an unmitigated disaster. The real disappointment for me is that Wheeler was not around to coach the very talented side he had assembled.

I think Wallis and the players expressed an honest opinion to the board - that the coach was rudderless. It would have been easier for them not to. I do not think history will judge Steve Wallis harshly on this point. A generation of players in Smith, Grant, Johnson, West, Darcy all looked up to the example that Steve Wallis has set on and off the field, and another generation of players has been influenced by them.

Sometimes senior players will be unhappy and thats just life. What cannot be argued is that Joyce had to go for the sake of the club. I dont think Wallis has anything to be sorry for.

[chef]

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I dont and I never have. Sure the manner of his departure was messy but it came at the right time and in my opinion Wallace is still one of the greats of our club. He gave 100% as a player and a coach over nearly 15 years.

As a player he never left anything on the field and as a coach he took as from an underacheiving self doubting group of individuals to a coherent successful team. We were good for him and he was good for us.


I hold Terry Wallace in very high regard and I'm grateful for the contribution he made to us.

This^^^.

I thought his apology(to the Bulldogs) at his press conference when steeping down as Richmond coach as great as well.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Its obvious the doco has been cut to portray Wallis as one of the main behind the scenes men, but what is absolute clear from the doco is that Steve Wallis was one of the most respected senior players at the Club, and a key member leadership group, albeit not officially captain.

Watching Year of the Dogs makes me wonder how Alan Joyce was ever a senior coach, and when you look at that group of players and how much talent was there 1996 was an unmitigated disaster. The real disappointment for me is that Wheeler was not around to coach the very talented side he had assembled.

I think Wallis and the players expressed an honest opinion to the board - that the coach was rudderless. It would have been easier for them not to. I do not think history will judge Steve Wallis harshly on this point. A generation of players in Smith, Grant, Johnson, West, Darcy all looked up to the example that Steve Wallis has set on and off the field, and another generation of players has been influenced by them.

Sometimes senior players will be unhappy and thats just life. What cannot be argued is that Joyce had to go for the sake of the club. I dont think Wallis has anything to be sorry for.

Let's not forget that Alan Joyce won two premierships at Hawthorn and took over from us when we were pretty ordinary early in 94 and took us to the finals in 94-95.

Joyce did not give one iota for what was going to happen tomorrow but he was actually very good at today. He was the perfect person to take over temporarily from Allan Jeans while Jeans was sick but was completely the wrong person for us at the time.

From memory there was a bit of talk around about Tom Hafey coming back and coaching us but we thought he was too old, I would have loved to have had the T-shirted one.

Wheels, as good as he had been up to 92 and completely lost it but the start of 94 and I was calling for his head at the end of 93, you could see the fall coming. Sydney had won one game in 93 and they beat us fairly easily in R1 of the the pre-season cup. Then Geelong and Ablett did a number on us at Easter. Wheels' time was up.

[Doc26]

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I dont and I never have. Sure the manner of his departure was messy but it came at the right time and in my opinion Wallace is still one of the greats of our club. He gave 100% as a player and a coach over nearly 15 years.

As a player he never left anything on the field and as a coach he took as from an underacheiving self doubting group of individuals to a coherent successful team. We were good for him and he was good for us.


I hold Terry Wallace in very high regard and I'm grateful for the contribution he made to us.

Largely based on what went down with Wallace's departure I will find it very hard to categorise him as one of our Greats, not close, although prior to his exit I was more than pleased to be a part of the spoils that he no doubt contributed to. During his time he did play a significant part in elevating the Club's standing even if he did eventually sell us out for personal reward.

btw Did have a laugh listening to Greg Denham last week claiming that Wallace really never had a good chance at Richmond because they didn't have the finances to pull together a decent football department, the primary reason he was giving at the time for leaving the Bulldogs.

[Ghost Dog]

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If anyone missed it or would just like to download it PM me and I will point you in the direction of a torrent.

I have mentioned this elsewhere, but I was formerly a Fitzroy supporter and was only young when they 'merged' but still had no love for the new Brisbane Lions entity. At a guess I think it was seeing this documentary (moreso than my love of Central Districts in the SANFL) that made me slowly gravitate to Footscray. Fantastic.

Yes would love that torrent please. Cheers
TAC