Channel One Tonight - Year of the Dog Doco

[Remi Moses]

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I'm not saying change wasn't needed, and that the result wasn't good for the club in the long run. I'm probably one of the few on here that rated the job Wallace did for us highly and can even understand walking away when he did.

What I'm saying about this film is it's obvious Wallis united the players to oust the coach. Scott Wynd was captain in 96 but he didn't led the push. I know quite a few senior players weren't particularly happy with what went on behind the scenes, and I think your casual observer who doesn't know Wallis particularly well would watch the film and see him as a backstabber.

Even wallace is on record as saying he wish he handled his exit from the club better. We all don't want a history lesson but the whole football fraternity were critical of Wallace and his stage managed exit

[Remi Moses]

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Let's not forget that Alan Joyce won two premierships at Hawthorn and took over from us when we were pretty ordinary early in 94 and took us to the finals in 94-95.

Joyce did not give one iota for what was going to happen tomorrow but he was actually very good at today. He was the perfect person to take over temporarily from Allan Jeans while Jeans was sick but was completely the wrong person for us at the time.

From memory there was a bit of talk around about Tom Hafey coming back and coaching us but we thought he was too old, I would have loved to have had the T-shirted one.

Wheels, as good as he had been up to 92 and completely lost it but the start of 94 and I was calling for his head at the end of 93, you could see the fall coming. Sydney had won one game in 93 and they beat us fairly easily in R1 of the the pre-season cup. Then Geelong and Ablett did a number on us at Easter. Wheels' time was up.

beat me to it Allan Joyce was a real gent and a very good coach. He took over in 94 when the club was in disarray and guided us into a finals series in a final we should have won,and then were numerous injuries for the following game. Not saying Wallace wasn't a good coach but Joyce deserves to be remembered as a very good coach

[Missing Dog]

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Just finished watching it.

Not that we didn't already know, but it just reinforced how passionate Libba was and how he bleed for the club.

[LostDoggy]

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Just finished watching it.

Not that we didn't already know, but it just reinforced how passionate Libba was and how he bleed for the club.

Yeah, I think Libba had a heart as big as Pharlap and it beat doubletime for the doggies! Just hope young Tom has 1/2 his father's passion!

[Murphy'sLore]

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Just finished watching it.

Not that we didn't already know, but it just reinforced how passionate Libba was and how he bleed for the club.

Literally.

[Jasper]

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beat me to it Allan Joyce was a real gent and a very good coach. He took over in 94 when the club was in disarray and guided us into a finals series in a final we should have won,and then were numerous injuries for the following game. Not saying Wallace wasn't a good coach but Joyce deserves to be remembered as a very good coach

A very good coach???
Based on?

That doco makes him look incredibly inept, unable to think under pressure, lacking in communication skills to individuals.

I have heard a number of Hawthorn players say blind freddie could have coached them to those premierships they were so talented and so well drilled by Jeans.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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A very good coach???
Based on?

That doco makes him look incredibly inept, unable to think under pressure, lacking in communication skills to individuals.

I have heard a number of Hawthorn players say blind freddie could have coached them to those premierships they were so talented and so well drilled by Jeans.

That's what they said about Essendon in 2001 and Geelong in 2008 and ...

Fact is he did it. Jeans didn't win it in 87 or 90.

[Remi Moses]

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A very good coach???
Based on?

That doco makes him look incredibly inept, unable to think under pressure, lacking in communication skills to individuals.

I have heard a number of Hawthorn players say blind freddie could have coached them to those premierships they were so talented and so well drilled by Jeans.

Agree with the first premiership win .
The second was won in adversity winning a final in Perth went in underdog that season with most people thinking West Coast would win it.

[Remi Moses]

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That's what they said about Essendon in 2001 and Geelong in 2008 and ...

Fact is he did it. Jeans didn't win it in 87 or 90.

Agree entirely

[kateyt]

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Hi all,

I would love that torrent too!! Can you please help me out!!

Katey

[JohnGentStand]

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cant believe that steve wallis is copping flack here......
easily the best ON FIELD assassin I have watched as a doggie supporter.....
more knockouts to his name than any other bulldog player I can recall
I hope his boy has a bit of it so i can continue my ' man-crush '

[azabob]

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Just finished watching it.

Not that we didn't already know, but it just reinforced how passionate Libba was and how he bleed for the club.

Is Tony Liberatore your favorite bulldog?

[Missing Dog]

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Is Tony Liberatore your favorite bulldog?

You bet he is

[LostDoggy]

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cant believe that steve wallis is copping flack here......
easily the best ON FIELD assassin I have watched as a doggie supporter.....
more knockouts to his name than any other bulldog player I can recall
...'

The hit on Brett Heady has coloured the way Steve Wallis is perceived. As a young player he was thin, elusive and skillful. As he aged, his body thickened and his game became more direct but he was never a Kennedy, West (Mark), Southern, MacPherson, Liberatore, Romero etc.

Toleration of individual over team, the club's curse. If there was a player conspiracy to get rid of Joyce and if Wallis was part of it, then condemnation is justified.

The 1996 team had 2 Brownlow medallists in it and the unluckiest near-Brownlow ever. West, Johnson, Smith, Wallis, Darcy were no slouches. The reason for the team playing so poorly that year has to include, significantly, the character of the players.

[Ozza]

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It was pretty clear in the early stages of the doco that Joyce had lost the players. History tells us it was the correct decision, and regardless of whether Joyce was a good, bad or indifferent coach - in anyone's opinion - the facts are that his time was clearly up at the bulldogs by 1996.

The game passes by many players - and it often passes by coaches too.