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  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    #31
    Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

    Originally posted by The Underdog
    Apparently she's a trained speech therapist and works at the Alfred (at least that's what a friend who works as a nurse at the Alfred told me).
    Yep, The Twig (that makes her sound so much cooler ) does work at the Alfred, as a speech pathologist.

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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #32
      Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

      Originally posted by dfa4pm
      I'm not convinced we'll lose either of them. No evidence to back that up, but given today's paper they're on the Giants radar. And if they're not, the GWS is derelict in their duty.

      So if we have to lose one, who would you want it to be?

      For mine, I'd hate to lose Ward. No disrespect to Wood, who I really, really like. I just think we'd lose more if we lost Cal. As much as he is not a cerebral guy, to me he screams leader and potential captain.

      Thoughts?
      It might be necessary to finish up Gilbee, Hargrave and Hall.

      Move two of Gia, Murphy and Lake onto the vets list.

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      • Bulldog Joe
        Premiership Moderator
        • Jul 2009
        • 5506

        #33
        Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
        It might be necessary to finish up Gilbee, Hargrave and Hall.

        Move two of Gia, Murphy and Lake onto the vets list.
        Now we are looking at list management issues and probably premature.

        Unfortunately the GWS threat makes this a reality.

        As difficult as it may be Murph may need to be retired given his ongoing injury issues that now date back 5 years. Certainly would need to get through the season unimpeded or he would represent a huge risk going forward, regardless of GWS.
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        • Desipura
          WOOF Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4344

          #34
          Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
          Now we are looking at list management issues and probably premature.

          Unfortunately the GWS threat makes this a reality.

          As difficult as it may be Murph may need to be retired given his ongoing injury issues that now date back 5 years. Certainly would need to get through the season unimpeded or he would represent a huge risk going forward, regardless of GWS.
          Murphys best is arguably better than Hargreave or Gilbee's, they would be the ones to retire before Murphy, if you were going down that path.
          Playing half back will alleviate stress on his Murphs body and hopefully prolong his career. Don't forget Hargreave has not been fully fit for a few seasons (even though he played last season) and Gilbee has not been the same player for a few seasons.

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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5506

            #35
            Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

            Originally posted by Desipura
            Murphys best is arguably better than Hargreave or Gilbee's, they would be the ones to retire before Murphy, if you were going down that path.
            Playing half back will alleviate stress on his Murphs body and hopefully prolong his career. Don't forget Hargreave has not been fully fit for a few seasons (even though he played last season) and Gilbee has not been the same player for a few seasons.
            I see Gilbee or Hargrave as needing to be retired anyway. They have gone onto the veterans list and we absolutely need Lake moved there in 2012. The salary cap relief is reduced if you have more than 2 veterans.

            up to 2 veterans 50% relief
            3 veterans 33%
            4 veterans 25%

            We probably need to maximise the relief on the highest salary and I am assuming that Lake is the highest earner anong the potential veteran group.
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            • Hot_Doggies
              Rookie List
              • May 2009
              • 396

              #36
              Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

              Although they aren't on huge $$$ , Minson, Stack, Addison have to be moved on to free up cash for cheap 18 yr olds.

              Cross, Gia, Hargreave , Murph , Hudson, Hall paycuts, delisted etc.

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #37
                Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

                Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                Although they aren't on huge $$$ , Minson, Stack, Addison have to be moved on to free up cash for cheap 18 yr olds.
                You don't save much by moving on these guys because they're not on big $$$ and you still have to pay draftees

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                • stefoid
                  Senior Player
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1846

                  #38
                  Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

                  Originally posted by Ghost Dog


                  GWS may throw in a free haircut?
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                  • stefoid
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1846

                    #39
                    Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

                    Originally posted by gogriff
                    Gotta go the A grade mid over the A grade defender
                    Well, neither is anything like A grade yet.

                    But we have Wallis and Libba to come into the midfield, who do we have coming on in defence?

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14868

                      #40
                      Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

                      Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                      Although they aren't on huge $$$ , Minson, Stack, Addison have to be moved on to free up cash for cheap 18 yr olds.
                      I'm actually surprised Addison isn't on the GWS radar (that we know of).
                      He's behind Boyd & Cross as an inside mid (and Gia going by last year's games when Boyd was missing).
                      He is a hardened body who is excellent with the one on ones, he bleeds for his teammates and is a NSW boy.

                      I'd rather he stay but given he is only on the fringes of our 22 he would be guaranteed 22 games + extra money + a homecoming by singing to GWS.
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                      • The Underdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6800

                        #41
                        Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        I'm actually surprised Addison isn't on the GWS radar (that we know of).
                        He's behind Boyd & Cross as an inside mid (and Gia going by last year's games when Boyd was missing).
                        He is a hardened body who is excellent with the one on ones, he bleeds for his teammates and is a NSW boy.

                        I'd rather he stay but given he is only on the fringes of our 22 he would be guaranteed 22 games + extra money + a homecoming by singing to GWS.
                        Yeah but they can probably use a mid range draft pick to trade for him rather than waste their time "enticing" him there, as opposed to players with far higher upside like Ward or Wood who will take $$$ & long term contracts. Addison, as much as I respect him, isn't worth committing long term money to.
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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14868

                          #42
                          Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

                          Originally posted by The Underdog
                          Yeah but they can probably use a mid range draft pick to trade for him rather than waste their time "enticing" him there, as opposed to players with far higher upside like Ward or Wood who will take $$$ & long term contracts. Addison, as much as I respect him, isn't worth committing long term money to.
                          Fair point, althoug if we manage to hold onto Ward & Wood they'd be better off signingDFA under the uncontracted player rule as that way the AFL gives us compensation and GWS get to keep their mid range pick.
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                          • boydogs
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5842

                            #43
                            Re: GWS. Wood or Ward?

                            Originally posted by stefoid
                            Well, neither is anything like A grade yet.
                            I see them as about even anyway.

                            Originally posted by stefoid
                            But we have Wallis and Libba to come into the midfield, who do we have coming on in defence?
                            Howard, Tutt and Schofield could become defenders for us. A good mid is more valuable, and could probably play a HBF role if required anyway. See what we did with Griffen for instance.
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