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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    #16
    Re: Sam Power A Roo

    Originally posted by McMahon#23
    Do you both think it's unrealistic to hope that guys like Stack and Hill will have an impact this coming season?
    No, I don't think we should use age as an excuse. Look at who led the way for Collingwood this year. If you're good enough, you're good enough!
    [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44662

      #17
      Re: Sam Power A Roo

      Originally posted by McMahon#23
      Do you both think it's unrealistic to hope that guys like Stack and Hill will have an impact this coming season?
      They can get some senior experience in 2008 but I doubt they will make that much of an impact.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Go_Dogs
        Hall of Fame
        • Jan 2007
        • 10161

        #18
        Re: Sam Power A Roo

        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
        No, I don't think we should use age as an excuse. Look at who led the way for Collingwood this year. If you're good enough, you're good enough!
        I agree.

        I'd really like us to throw the gauntlet down on them, and let them show us what they can do.

        GVGjr, do you think it's body size that will hold them back at this stage, or fitness? I'd be prepared for them to play, regardless if they're a bit smaller in the body than their opponents. Their speed and agility is what will get them through.
        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44662

          #19
          Re: Sam Power A Roo

          Originally posted by McMahon#23
          I agree.

          I'd really like us to throw the gauntlet down on them, and let them show us what they can do.

          GVGjr, do you think it's body size that will hold them back at this stage, or fitness? I'd be prepared for them to play, regardless if they're a bit smaller in the body than their opponents. Their speed and agility is what will get them through.
          Yes body size, fitness and application are the areas they need to improve on. The don't posses the defensive attributes we need either. It doesn't mean that it can't be taught but thats why we should play them in the VFL and work on those area's.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Go_Dogs
            Hall of Fame
            • Jan 2007
            • 10161

            #20
            Re: Sam Power A Roo

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Yes body size, fitness and application are the areas they need to improve on. The don't posses the defensive attributes we need either. It doesn't mean that it can't be taught but thats why we should play them in the VFL and work on those area's.
            Fair enough. From your assessments it seems as though they didn't improve too much on their defensive aspects over their first year. Would I be correct in saying that you feel that they'll need another couple of years in the system to really have a big impact?

            I remain hopeful, due to what Harbrow showed, and someone like Jetta in his first few games before injury, that even though they are slight in the body, and do have some weakness at this stage, they can impact in a positive way. Harbrow was obviously very impressive with his attitude to pre-season training and worked hard to establish himself over the summer, perhaps that is what is differentiating him at the moment.
            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44662

              #21
              Re: Sam Power A Roo

              Originally posted by McMahon#23
              Fair enough. From your assessments it seems as though they didn't improve too much on their defensive aspects over their first year. Would I be correct in saying that you feel that they'll need another couple of years in the system to really have a big impact?

              I remain hopeful, due to what Harbrow showed, and someone like Jetta in his first few games before injury, that even though they are slight in the body, and do have some weakness at this stage, they can impact in a positive way. Harbrow was obviously very impressive with his attitude to pre-season training and worked hard to establish himself over the summer, perhaps that is what is differentiating him at the moment.
              I think they will play some senior football in 2008 but it's not always ideal to have players learn something critical like the how to apply yourself to a defensive role in the seniors.
              Harbrow is a lot further developed in that area than the other two at the moment and that is one of the reasons why he played a fair bit of senior football.
              The thing with Stack is he spent the majority of the season with the Werribee 2nds so it would be a huge jump for him to play a lot of senior footy in 2008.
              You have seen my Werribee reports so you know that I rate them it's just in my opinion they need a lot more work.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Bulldog Revolution
                Coaching Staff
                • Dec 2006
                • 3926

                #22
                Re: Sam Power A Roo

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I think they will play some senior football in 2008 but it's not always ideal to have players learn something critical like the how to apply yourself to a defensive role in the seniors.
                Harbrow is a lot further developed in that area than the other two at the moment and that is one of the reasons why he played a fair bit of senior football.
                The thing with Stack is he spent the majority of the season with the Werribee 2nds so it would be a huge jump for him to play a lot of senior footy in 2008.
                You have seen my Werribee reports so you know that I rate them it's just in my opinion they need a lot more work.
                They are really both still physically maturing and pretty lightly built, but you can certainly see the athletic potential in them. 2007 was a good development year for them both: Stack played mainly reserves and a few senior games, Hill was a handy contributor at times in the VFL seniors and made his AFL debut against the Eagles.

                IMO it could only motivate a player to see how good the Eagles were, and the opportunity available to play AFL.

                My hope for them would be to become regular senior VFL players at Willy in 2008, and to have a real impact on the games at that level. Harbrow did it this year and was electric in a handful of games for W'Bee and Malcolm Lynch also had some games where he was a real factor. If Willy can help these youngsters learn the game they way they taught Martin Clarke then we should see good results.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66742

                  #23
                  Re: Sam Power A Roo

                  Delisted today
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #24
                    Re: Sam Power A Roo

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Delisted today
                    Ouch. 120 odd games without polling 1 solitary Brownlow Vote. I think this record will stand for some time.

                    Shame i always liked Sammy, but no-one liked the Sam Power Posse i started...

                    Ah well, all the best to him. He is a very intelligent young man. I hope he finishes his law degree and can play some decent VFL footy around it.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • AndrewP6
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8142

                      #25
                      Re: Sam Power A Roo

                      Sorry to read of Power's delisting... as a distant relative, I feel for the guy. (And yes, it's true, I am a distant relative of his!)
                      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6402

                        #26
                        Re: Sam Power A Roo

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Ouch. 120 odd games without polling 1 solitary Brownlow Vote. I think this record will stand for some time.

                        Shame i always liked Sammy, but no-one liked the Sam Power Posse i started...

                        Ah well, all the best to him. He is a very intelligent young man. I hope he finishes his law degree and can play some decent VFL footy around it.
                        There's quite a few that have played many more games and never polled a vote. I'd rather not name names though!!!!

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                        • Sockeye Salmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6365

                          #27
                          Re: Sam Power A Roo

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          There's quite a few that have played many more games and never polled a vote. I'd rather not name names though!!!!
                          I think I heard that Michael Tuck polled his only Brownlow vote in his last season?

                          TCD will know that, I'm sure.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #28
                            Re: Sam Power A Roo

                            Originally posted by Ozza
                            There's quite a few that have played many more games and never polled a vote. I'd rather not name names though!!!!
                            I thought i heard some 'comedians' say he had the record, obviously not...
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11261

                              #29
                              Re: Sam Power A Roo

                              I think Ross Henshaw might hold the record for most VFL/AFL games without a Brownlow vote
                              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                              • The Coon Dog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7579

                                #30
                                Re: Sam Power A Roo

                                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                                I think I heard that Michael Tuck polled his only Brownlow vote in his last season?

                                TCD will know that, I'm sure.
                                No, he polled 104 career Brownlow Medal votes.

                                Michael Tuck
                                [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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