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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10152

    #31
    Re: Sam Power A Roo

    So, after a couple of years Power has gone, and IIRC we got Boumann with pick 48 who has had an impressive year of development and should be pushing for some senior game time next year. Seems like a good result for us.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      #32
      Re: Sam Power A Roo

      Another justified decision by Rocket. Nice young bloke and good luck to him

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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #33
        Re: Sam Power A Roo

        Hargreaves got his first votes this year

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14618

          #34
          Re: Sam Power A Roo

          Originally posted by bulldogsfight
          Hargreaves got his first votes this year
          Who does he play for?
          The curse is dead.

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13235

            #35
            Re: Sam Power A Roo

            Hargrave (edited for accuracy).
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #36
              Re: Sam Power A Roo

              Originally posted by Remi Moses
              Another justified decision by Rocket. Nice young bloke and good luck to him
              Fair point. When you look at the players he has decided aren't up to it, they haven't done anything. For anyone still questioning the GOK decision, look at Eade's record of cutting players at the dogs (remembering Ray left, he was traded or delisted).
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • The Underdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2007
                • 6871

                #37
                Re: Sam Power A Roo

                Originally posted by Griffen#16
                So, after a couple of years Power has gone, and IIRC we got Boumann with pick 48 who has had an impressive year of development and should be pushing for some senior game time next year. Seems like a good result for us.
                Or it would if we hadn't have spent pick 10 on Power in the first place. That suddenly makes it seem much worse. Unless Boumann fulfil's Comrade's expectations of course.
                Park that car
                Drop that phone
                Sleep on the floor
                Dream about me

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #38
                  Re: Sam Power A Roo

                  Originally posted by The Underdog
                  Or it would if we hadn't have spent pick 10 on Power in the first place. That suddenly makes it seem much worse. Unless Boumann fulfil's Comrade's expectations of course.
                  We could have overlooked Power and taken the kid that went at pick 11 instead. Richie Cole.

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10142

                    #39
                    Re: Sam Power A Roo

                    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                    We could have overlooked Power and taken the kid that went at pick 11 instead. Richie Cole.
                    Or that spud who went at 13 - Dal Santo.

                    Seriously, all this is is another waste of a first round pick. McMahon, Power, Walsh, Ray; all seriously failed to deliver on expectations. Three of these four taken in the top ten, two in the top five. And the jury is still out on every first rounder from Williams onwards (Higgins excluded).

                    Who said Clayton was a good recruiter?
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      #40
                      Re: Sam Power A Roo

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      Or that spud who went at 13 - Dal Santo.

                      Seriously, all this is is another waste of a first round pick. McMahon, Power, Walsh, Ray; all seriously failed to deliver on expectations. Three of these four taken in the top ten, two in the top five. And the jury is still out on every first rounder from Williams onwards (Higgins excluded).

                      Who said Clayton was a good recruiter?
                      I do.

                      It's pretty easy picking kids 8 years after the event.

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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10142

                        #41
                        Re: Sam Power A Roo

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        I do.

                        It's pretty easy picking kids 8 years after the event.
                        Was besides the point.

                        He had a blinder in '99, and has gotten some good gets very, very deep, but he misses alot of sitters. You can't possibly deny that we had a terrible strike rate with top picks under Clayton.
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • jazzadogs
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5643

                          #42
                          Re: Sam Power A Roo

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          Was besides the point.

                          He had a blinder in '99, and has gotten some good gets very, very deep, but he misses alot of sitters. You can't possibly deny that we had a terrible strike rate with top picks under Clayton.
                          I don't know what the result of this would be, but it would be interesting to compare our top picks with other teams top picks over the time Clayton was in charge.

                          I don't think there is any one team, or recruiter, which has perfected the draft. I daresay that whilst we had some mistakes, there are plenty of other teams like us.

                          Clayton's recruiting, combined with Eade's coaching and player development, has led to us playing in two straight preliminary finals and looking to improve. You can't say he did a bad job.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #43
                            Re: Sam Power A Roo

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            You can't possibly deny that we had a terrible strike rate with top picks under Clayton.
                            Yep, fair call Happy Days. His return with the top picks hasn't been great.

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10142

                              #44
                              Re: Sam Power A Roo

                              Originally posted by jazzadogs
                              Clayton's recruiting, combined with Eade's coaching and player development, has led to us playing in two straight preliminary finals and looking to improve. You can't say he did a bad job.
                              Not a bad job, but geez is he overrated.

                              He is a good depth recruiter, which is why we have done so well through the rookie list and such, but he missed horribly, many times, on what are meant to be gimmies, and that, in my opinion, is his failing.

                              Imagine if we had of made full use of our early picks like St. Kilda, or Hawthorn have done?
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • Sockeye Salmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6365

                                #45
                                Re: Sam Power A Roo

                                Stephen Wells has been Geelong's recruiter for ages and won two premierships but is his record really any better than Clayton's?

                                Let's have a look at Geelongs two premiership sides.

                                Half his premiership players have been either father/sons (2 x Abletts, Scarlett, Blake), trades (Harley, Mooney, Ottens), before Wells arrived (King, Milburn) or top 10 picks (Bartel, Corey, Mackie, Selwood).

                                Kelly (17), Johnson (24), Chapman (31), Ling (38), Enright (47) & Rooke (rookie) were good picks. Were they better selections than Giansiracusa (32), Hahn (37), Gilbee (47), Cross (56), Lake (71), Boyd (rookie), Morris (rookie)?

                                Clayton missed with Power (10), Wells missed with Spriggs (15).
                                Clayton missed with Faulkner (17), Wells missed with Bray (17).
                                Clayton missed with Jesse Wells (22), Wells missed with Foster (23).

                                Tim Walsh (4) was our big disaster, but this had as much to do with a broken leg, broken thumb and an ACL than anything to do with ability. Kane Tenace (7) is now gone too.

                                Even his top ten picks in this years grand final side can be compared to their closest draft pick - Selwood (7) or Griffen (3), Mackie (7) or Williams (6), Corey (8) or Higgins (10), Bartel (8) or Murphy (13).

                                Harry Taylor (17) or Cal Ward (19).
                                Varcoe (15) or Everitt (11)

                                I haven't included Cooney or Grant in the comparison because Geelong haven't had a no. 1 pick and it's a bit early to make a call on Grant (Geelong had no pick near him anyway).


                                Wells is generally accepted as the best in the business but Clayton's record sits comfortably alongside.

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