So where are we at?

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: So where are we at?

    Originally posted by mjp
    Don't bend to my judgement - I haven't seen him play (vs Swans only game I saw) but forward pressure was not really something that jumped out at me. What role will he play? Forward I guess, but where...you wouldn't want him matched up against a running machine like Shaw or Kenneally, so does that mean Mattner? Maybe Smith? I guess it means deep...where we have been screaming out for crumbers but he wasn't that when I saw him.

    I don't like yo-yo selections (Addison, Stack over the past two weeks) particularly when they relate to peripheral players...they are not going to win or lose the game for us.
    I thought it was tough on Addison to only get one game in and then back to Willi, must kill his confidence.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #17
      Re: So where are we at?

      on today's performance , all at sea

      .

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      • AndrewP6
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2009
        • 8142

        #18
        Re: So where are we at?

        Staring at the top 8 from beneath, IMO.
        [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          #19
          Re: So where are we at?

          At a guess, I have a hint we still may make the 8 but that'sabout as far.
          In terms of finals footy, time to start thinking about next season which is really sad.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • DOG GOD
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2007
            • 6595

            #20
            Re: So where are we at?

            If teams like Rich, Melb, Syd, and Saints pull off some flukey wins, it will make it hard for us. We need to pull off a win against one or two top sides, which i cant see us doing by todays 4 qtr effort.
            I will never see #16 the same!!

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: So where are we at?

              We play Richmond next week and that will tell you something.

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3859

                #22
                Re: So where are we at?

                The tigers game is a must win game now. Not an easy one either. The thing is though its an even competition and 11 wins will probably see a side into the 8. We have 2 with 6 games played. I would back us to win another 9 out if 16 or so games left.

                With our injury list, this was always going to be a tough 1st half offered year. With a little bit if pick we could be 4-2 instead of 2-4. I wonder though if the lake dramas are a sign of a deeper level of disharmony in the squad.

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                • Chicago1
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 398

                  #23
                  Re: So where are we at?

                  So... we have the same number of wins as the Gold Coast Suns. And we play Richmond, who demolished the Dockers, next week. Great. This year is not turning out like I had expected.

                  We must beat Richmond next week. Must!
                  47 year Doggie member

                  I'm home...

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                  • chef
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14702

                    #24
                    Re: So where are we at?

                    Time to get games into as many kids as we can with an eye for the future, but with Eade trying to hold onto his job I can't see this happening.
                    The curse is dead.

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15421

                      #25
                      Re: So where are we at?

                      Originally posted by chef
                      Time to get games into as many kids as we can with an eye for the future, but with Eade trying to hold onto his job I can't see this happening.
                      But why not? Let's just say for a moment we continue to go south. Eade goes to the board and says, Im taking a different approach I am going to play the younger players with a view to the future.

                      If he does that and they show something why wouldn't Garlick and Co give him another 2 years?
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14702

                        #26
                        Re: So where are we at?

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        But why not? Let's just say for a moment we continue to go south. Eade goes to the board and says, Im taking a different approach I am going to play the younger players with a view to the future.

                        If he does that and they show something why wouldn't Garlick and Co give him another 2 years?
                        Your asking the wrong person as I think it's time for a change.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15421

                          #27
                          Re: So where are we at?

                          Originally posted by chef
                          Your asking the wrong person as I think it's time for a change.
                          I don't know which way to go. Would you want a tried or untried coach?
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • SonofScray
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4266

                            #28
                            Re: So where are we at?

                            It has really started to look like a another horror year for us. A little bit out of the blue, like 2007 where we just ell in a heap after a few promising seasons. Only this time the frustration exponentially larger because we have risen, and risen under Eade and now appear to be slipping with nothing to show for it.

                            Where are we at? I think we're in strife. As a fan I've really lost any sense of what our team stands for, unlike a few years ago when we were really a slick, running side working on our contested ability. At the moment we're a bit like the other top teams just not as good at any aspect they've become elite at.

                            We've got serious issues around consistency and effort, skill level is deteriorating and injuries have been cruel. I'm getting the sense that some of these player issues like Aker and the Lake/Eagleton stuff might have eroded some of the 'esprit de corps' around the traps as well. I think we've seen some Dog's teams over the years really look like they are playing for each other, for the jumper and bring that emotional side of the game to match day. This current crop as we venture further into Eade's tenure has become much more robotic (some will argue that this should read 'more professional.')

                            If things fall into place we're still a chance for finals and still a chance to win a few games there. Unfortunately though I have no confidence in this squad to get it done. We've had three chances, gone to the well with the same plan each time and have been let down by the same players. Nothing about this year suggests that any of those class of 99 types will do the job Rocket wants when it counts, maybe Bob if he is fit.

                            I'm still in the wait and see camp but have a bad feeling the season is shot already. Might be time to turn the torch on a few players and Rocket.
                            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7444

                              #29
                              Re: So where are we at?

                              Originally posted by chef
                              Time to get games into as many kids as we can with an eye for the future, but with Eade trying to hold onto his job I can't see this happening.
                              How many more kids do you want to play?
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                              • Ghost Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 9404

                                #30
                                Re: So where are we at?

                                Originally posted by chef
                                Your asking the wrong person as I think it's time for a change.
                                Hi Chef.


                                So in your view, a % figure of players V coach regarding how much blame you lay regarding our current prediciment

                                I was talking to a friend of mine about American NFL, where the contract arrangements a la Neil Craig are more the norm. He said, the pressure is a lot less when things go south over there, whereas in AFL, fans get pretty feral on the coach fast.
                                The constant speculation is a factor they don't have or something along those lines and the players tend to be blamed more than the coach. Not sure...just what he said.

                                You honestly think Rocket was to blame for our mid game fade out on Sunday?
                                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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