Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

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  • Evel

    Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

    Originally posted by lemmon
    Really makes you wonder where this midfield group is at, we've seemingly gone from a highly skilled, quick moving though heavily outside unit, to a tough in and under, hard ball winning unit with lesser skills but this year we're seeing the worst of both, poor skills and smacked in the clearances, all without a massive turnover in midfield personnel.
    You've pretty much summed it up. Certainly in the last couple of years our midfield hasn't adapted to the way top teams play. In all our games this year, when we win the ball, we do tend to hack the kick forward instead of trying to spread or look for a running option and it's always got us into trouble. Teams like the Pies and even Essendon this year all seem to be able to break away from the contest, whereas we've struggled. Our lack of midfield pace with players like Cross and Boyd has been discussed before and from the Victorian games I've seen this year, this lack of pace does show when these players can't get to a contest in time or run to close the space when trying to defend.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

      Originally posted by Glove38
      Boyd can get all the ball he wants each week, but if he uses it at 67% efficiency, it's useless.
      Thats a comment that Mark Maclure mentioned in his post match reviewon ABC radio. He said that Boyds stats showed he picked up plenty of possessions but he didnt really notice him having any real effect on the game.

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      • Evel

        Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

        Originally posted by Flamethrower
        At least we have picked a good year to have a bad season. No one will get close to Collingwood for the flag this year.

        We are probably better off concentrating getting some experience into Wally, Libba, LJ, Roughy, Merlin, Marko etc, so they will be ready to complement the existing players for a full on assault at the flag in 2012 and 2013.

        As for Rocket, the game plan is fine - it is the execution and lack of work ethic that is killing us.
        Agree with this. Although it stings to lose, getting games into younger players is a good thing. We've lost a lot of senior experience last year and likely to lose some more this year. In a tough competition, realistically we were always likely to slip. It will not be a wasted year if we get games into the above quoted players and perhaps a few more like Djkrra (sorry for abbreviation), Veszpremi, Skinner, Schofield just to get a taste of their capabilities. After all this is list we have and we need to give opportunities if they are deserved. If we cop an injury even Dalhaus must be a chance for promotion. I give Eade credit in that I think he realises he needs to develop new players to reload.

        Please don't think I'm being a smart ass, but I would love to hear your thoughts on Rocket's game plan and what he's trying to execute. I have only seen the Victorian games this year from level 3 on the wing and I honestly cannot pickup what our game plan is.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

          Originally posted by Petergm
          Thats a comment that Mark Maclure mentioned in his post match reviewon ABC radio. He said that Boyds stats showed he picked up plenty of possessions but he didnt really notice him having any real effect on the game.
          It's not the first & won't be the last time he does this, him and Cross are very much culprits of this.

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          • SlimPickens
            Coaching Staff
            • Aug 2010
            • 2929

            Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

            Who did Picken and Morris pick up today? Noticed they a prominent once again in The Marmo votes.
            "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15377

              Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

              Originally posted by SlimPickens
              Who did Picken and Morris pick up today? Noticed they a prominent once again in The Marmo votes.
              Picko was on McGlynn, Morris was on Goodes when forward and when he wasn't he rotated on many.

              Both were more than serviceable.

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              • the banker
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 453

                Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                The big thing for me though was that we look unfit as a group. What exactly were they doing during the pre-season?


                Feel this could have been the strategy and ATM looks like it will backfire. We have failed to see seasons out strongly and maybe we have had the training regime geared to the backend of the season?
                WesternOval'61

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                  Originally posted by SlimPickens
                  Who did Picken and Morris pick up today? Noticed they a prominent once again in The Marmo votes.
                  McGlynn was kept quite, but, Picken was our worst user of the ball today.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14241

                    Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                    The way the Tigers are playing tonight we will get smashed next week.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                      Originally posted by The Underdog
                      They're Richmond, there's always hope.
                      Originally posted by ledge
                      The way the Tigers are playing tonight we will get smashed next week.
                      Nah I think we'll belt Richmond, the one thing I'm confident about this team is they'll belt a weakish team. Boyd, Gia, Higgins will all have a field day, against a good team they'll give us nothing, but give them a chance to front run and we'll be away.
                      [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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                      • Hotdog60
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5868

                        Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                        Originally posted by the banker
                        The big thing for me though was that we look unfit as a group. What exactly were they doing during the pre-season?


                        Feel this could have been the strategy and ATM looks like it will backfire. We have failed to see seasons out strongly and maybe we have had the training regime geared to the backend of the season?
                        I think this was the strategy, due to fade outs over the last couple of seasons. The trouble might be that if your not in contention it's all for nought.
                        Don't piss off old people
                        The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                        • Missing Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8501

                          Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                          Tiges are going to be bloody tough to beat if we play like we did in the 3rd qtr we are GAWN

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                          • Greystache
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                            Originally posted by theimmortalmike
                            Yeah 10 marks, 23ish possessions and 2 goals in a losing side amounts to exactly nothing...
                            Sydney aren't a good team, they're middle of the road along with us, Adelaide, and Carlton.
                            [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                              Originally posted by Glove38
                              Boyd can get all the ball he wants each week, but if he uses it at 67% efficiency, it's useless.
                              So Boyd had more effective disposals than anyone, then?

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15258

                                Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

                                Im at a loss what should be done.

                                I thought our rucks were beaten quite badly, our midfield was poor and so was the forward line.
                                Both forwards and mids don't seem to work hard enough to help out when needed.

                                When Murphy cramped why were there teamates hanging around him rather than running to space to provide an option?

                                It appears we are in some sort of transition phase but still expecting to win.

                                Cross did well today - I think he went head to head with Bolton but who does he match up on next week? Richmond is very very quick.

                                Jones and Grant are struggling and the forward line looks just as slow as it did last year.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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